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Post by Ddroid » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:58 am

Clockwork Planet (クロックワーク・プラネット) - this is for clockwork fans
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/clockwork_planet/c001/
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Takayukashiki Shoujo (高床式少女) - No English translation yet but I've read it in other language, looks promising
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Post by T-elos/Thurosis » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:02 pm

COOOLLLL!!!! :D :D :D :D
Thank for sharing :D
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Re: Some New Manga

Post by BD » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:02 pm

meh, barely illegal teens. That's as adult as it gets in japan apparently. The schizo robot that treats everyone as shit but also says: "oh, do not worry, you are very worthy of being a shit, it's a great accomplishment" is hilarious though.

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Re: Some New Manga

Post by Ddroid » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:17 pm

I don't really care much about plot though. As long as there is nice fembot inside.

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Re: Some New Manga

Post by T-elos/Thurosis » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:29 pm

Ddroid wrote:I don't really care much about plot though. As long as there is nice fembot inside.
I care about the plot a bit, but the plot (if it comes to fembots) is more a optional/additional nice thing. if its good.
But in general i agree to your opinion.
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Re: Some New Manga

Post by BD » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:00 pm

since the fembot in question is so young looking as to make me feel i could be her father... it does not interest me that much. I hope the plot is nice.

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Re: Some New Manga

Post by T-elos/Thurosis » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:54 pm

Gosh, why are you BD so sensitive against anime/manga?
Beside what's the matter about the appearance?? It's fine drawn and both does not look too young at all.
There are a lot more worse examples....

I'm happy that there are finally some manga stuff which fembot content inside!
Lately (in Germany) are Sci-Fi manga, especially those which fembots rarely seen....
All what you what you see everywhere in book stores are those f*cking Yaoi (homo-love) Story-Manga... Which annoys me a lot.
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Post by Saya » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:22 pm

No offense, but, if you think this is bad, hop on Pixiv sometime.

The things I have seen.

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Re: Some New Manga

Post by Epitaph » Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:06 pm

T-elos/Thurosis wrote:Gosh, why are you BD so sensitive against anime/manga?
Beside what's the matter about the appearance?? It's fine drawn and both does not look too young at all.
There are a lot more worse examples....

I'm happy that there are finally some manga stuff which fembot content inside!
Lately (in Germany) are Sci-Fi manga, especially those which fembots rarely seen....
All what you what you see everywhere in book stores are those f*cking Yaoi (homo-love) Story-Manga... Which annoys me a lot.
Jedem das Seine, Thurosis. If BD dislikes it, then he dislikes it. That's his personal preference. You may think otherwise, but it's not anyone's place to dictate what someone may like or dislike. Similarly, while you may think it is a pity that there are male x male manga around, some people (probably those who have been protesting in Russia or can now get happily married in Scotland) would probably think otherwise.

One must allow for the preferences of others, if one wishes in turn to indulge in one's own preferences without sanction.

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Post by BD » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:20 am

T-elos/Thurosis wrote:Gosh, why are you BD so sensitive against anime/manga?
Beside what's the matter about the appearance?? It's fine drawn and both does not look too young at all.
There are a lot more worse examples....
I love manga, i could take a picture of my manga collection and it would have to be a 360° whole room thing.

But this is a porn site. I come here for the porn. I would like not find 16 years old people in my porn.

Unluckily 90% of mangas are targeted at kids so 16 years old is acceptable looks for a love interest for that target.

josei/seinen genres would be much more appreciated by a lot.

But translations of those are practically non-existant outside of japan and i weep for that. And fembot love interests are even more rare in there.
T-elos/Thurosis wrote:All what you what you see everywhere in book stores are those f*cking Yaoi (homo-love) Story-Manga... Which annoys me a lot.
I don't care about yaoi, they have their target.

What i am saying is that this is a porn site.

While some of us conceivably could be interested in very young looking girls since they might be in their 18-20s i'm well past my 30s by a lot and that girl looks less than half my age.

I did not say to remove it because it concerns our interests and as i said young enough users of this forum could be interested.

I did not say: "This is an abomination! REPENT IN CHRIST!"

I did not say: "I HATE MANGAAARGH!"

I did not say: "Android 18 suxx. Down with this dragonball-like stuff. Faggots."

What i said instead was:
BD wrote:since the fembot in question is so young looking as to make me feel i could be her father... it does not interest me that much. I hope the plot is nice.
Which means exactly what i said. Let me choose different words: "i do not care about the fact that she is an android because while it is my fetish she is not of the right age to interest me that way. I sicerely hope this comic will entertain me in other ways."

Just because i don't worship a character on an altar with several pictures of her does not mean i despise the character or the genre.

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Re: Some New Manga

Post by darkbutflashy » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:34 am

Epitaph wrote:Jedem das Seine, Thurosis.
And there we'd hit godwin's law. I annouce thee this discussion is over.

Epitaph, if you don't know the historical use of that sentence, please inform yourself and never use it again. It's poisoned. Period. If you do know and use it on purpose, shame on you. :cry:


EDIT: And if you ever need a non-toxic german proverb for "anyone may do as he likes", use Jedem Tierchen sein Pläsierchen (German, fake French, and, oh yes, it rhymes) literally meaning [Let] each deer [have] its pleasure. This is used in everyday German and has no historical connotation.

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Post by Epitaph » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:35 am

darkbutflashy wrote:
Epitaph wrote:Jedem das Seine, Thurosis.
And there we'd hit godwin's law. I annouce thee this discussion is over.

Epitaph, if you don't know the historical use of that sentence, please inform yourself and never use it again. It's poisoned. Period. If you do know and use it on purpose, shame on you. :cry:

EDIT: And if you ever need a non-toxic german proverb for "anyone may do as he likes", use Jedem Tierchen sein Pläsierchen (German, fake French, and, oh yes, it rhymes) literally meaning [Let] each deer [have] its pleasure. This is used in everyday German and has no historical connotation.
Forgive my German, as I realize it is a little deficient. Jedem das Seine is the only wayI know how to express the meaning of suum cuique (to each their own) in German, and as Thurosis comes from Germany, I assumed a translation would be better and more direct.

Forgive me for the connotations, which I am aware of but I had meant the phrase in the spirit of its original Latin of suum cuique, whose Platonic/Ciceronian/Frederician liberal and tolerant meaning was what I was getting at. John Locke expresses it best when he said 'everyman has a property in his person; this nobody has a right to but himself.' What I was getting at was that one shouldn't haul another over the coals simply because of a difference in preferences, which is what was getting me somewhat steamed in the earlier comments.

In any case, thank you for the proverb in German. Hopefully it will prevent me from getting egg on my face in the future again.

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Re: Some New Manga

Post by darkbutflashy » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:19 am

Epitaph wrote:its original Latin of suum cuique, whose Platonic/Ciceronian liberal and tolerant meaning was what I was getting at. John Locke expresses it best when he said 'everyman has a property in his person; this nobody has a right to but himself.' What I was getting at was that one shouldn't haul another over the coals simply because of a difference in preferences.
Yes, I've understood that. Suum Cuique is fine but hardly anybody but the Feldjäger (german military police) will know that latin saying in Germany. The Feldjäger only because it's their motto. Jedem das Seine used to be fine, too, before the Nazis put it on the Buchenwald gate. I'm not offended personally but there are people in german media who greatly exaggerate when that sentence is used, and they do it on purpose. There even was a Nokia commercial 20 years ago gaining attention only because it fell into the same trap you have fallen into.

In result, saying that in the particular context of some German flak'ing others, it could be understand as "You are joking about people you harass, you nazi bastard" and heat up a discussion instead of calming it down. Full circle, we are at godwin's law. :nerd: End of lecture. Sorry. :)
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Post by darkbutflashy » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:59 am

On page 32 she said she had been suspended for 1804926 hours. That's 206 years. Kept yourself in good shape, granny. :applause:
And that what she says implies she acts in full consent. I'd be more curious about the boy. At which age does high school end in Japan? Damn Japanese and their school uniform fetish :P
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Re: Some New Manga

Post by Epitaph » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:08 am

darkbutflashy wrote:
Epitaph wrote:its original Latin of suum cuique, whose Platonic/Ciceronian liberal and tolerant meaning was what I was getting at. John Locke expresses it best when he said 'everyman has a property in his person; this nobody has a right to but himself.' What I was getting at was that one shouldn't haul another over the coals simply because of a difference in preferences.
Yes, I've understood that. Suum Cuique is fine but hardly anybody but the Feldjäger (german military police) will know that latin saying in Germany. The Feldjäger only because it's their motto. Jedem das Seine used to be fine, too, before the Nazis put it on the Buchenwald gate. I'm not offended personally but there are people in german media who greatly exaggerate when that sentence is used, and they do it on purpose. There even was a Nokia commercial 20 years ago gaining attention only because it fell into the same trap you have fallen into.

In result, saying that in the particular context of some German flak'ing others, it could be understand as "You are joking about people you harass, you nazi bastard" and heat up a discussion instead of calming it down. Full circle, we are at godwin's law. :nerd: End of lecture. Sorry. :)
No need to apologize! I genuinely appreciate the 'lecture', as you put it, as you're helping me avoid the pitfalls a non-native speaker would be otherwise unwary of. :)

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Post by T-elos/Thurosis » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:06 am

Oh Wow! :shock:
Looks like i've started something here ^^;
i apologize that something has been stirred up here.

I wasn't angry nor mad,because of BD message. I was just curious about his opinion about manga.
And now i know it.
BD wrote:I did not say to remove it because it concerns our interests and as i said young enough users of this forum could be interested.
Glad to hear
BD wrote:I did not say: "This is an abomination! REPENT IN CHRIST!"
Lol, i agree and glad to hear XD
BD wrote:I did not say: "I HATE MANGAAARGH!"
LOL², glad to hear²
BD wrote:I did not say: "Android 18 suxx. Down with this dragonball-like stuff. Faggots."
I do not like Android 18 either.... beside is she really an android? I believe that Akira Toriyama accidentally swap those words....
Epitaph wrote:Jedem das Seine, Thurosis.
Yes, i agree. But i was just curious about BD opinion....
And i hear this very often at the end of a a discussion everyday, with friends :D
I of course tolerate others opinion. Maybe i used wrong words to bring out my curiosity about BD opinion.
So i apologize for the confusion ^^;
darkbutflashy wrote:The Feldjäger only because it's their motto. Jedem das Seine used to be fine, too, before the Nazis put it on the Buchenwald gate. I'm not offended personally but there are people in german media who greatly exaggerate when that sentence is used, and they do it on purpose
I do not feel offended either. Many germans say "Jedem das Seine". And i believe mostly noboby remember nor know the origin meaning... ( i didn't know that these words were from the "Feldjägern" either XD)
We use them as common/nomal words.
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darkbutflashy wrote:On page 32 she said she had been suspended for 1804926 hours. That's 206 years. Kept yourself in good shape, granny. :applause:
And that what she says implies she acts in full consent. I'd be more curious about the boy. At which age does high school end in Japan? Damn Japanese and their school uniform fetish :P
I was referring to her age of appearance. If anyone has any proof that this character is supposed to appear as a human girl of a certain age, please state it here.
Oh :( i hope you are not going to shut down this treat.... i like it acutally
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Re: Some New Manga

Post by --NightBattery-- » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:28 am

darkbutflashy wrote:
Epitaph wrote:Jedem das Seine, Thurosis.
Epitaph, if you don't know the historical use of that sentence, please inform yourself and never use it again. It's poisoned. Period. If you do know and use it on purpose, shame on you. :cry:
I wonder what wikipedia has to say about that phrase i had never heard before...oh...ow..ow....ok, i get it know.

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Post by BD » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:56 pm

T-elos/Thurosis wrote:
BD wrote:I did not say: "Android 18 suxx. Down with this dragonball-like stuff. Faggots."
I do not like Android 18 either.... beside is she really an android? I believe that Akira Toriyama accidentally swap those words....
Here in italy they called her cyborg 18 but i have no idea what the actual japanese name was.

And i do like her, just... well the cartoon sucks a lot (the manga is nice, but the cartoon is boring even when viewed at 16x) and she is an android in name only. :/

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Post by --NightBattery-- » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:28 pm

BD wrote:
And i do like her, just... well the cartoon sucks a lot (the manga is nice, but the cartoon is boring even when viewed at 16x) and she is an android in name only. :/
BD wrote:
And i do like her, just... well the cartoon sucks a lot :/
BD wrote: just... well the cartoon sucks a lot :/
BD wrote:
the cartoon sucks a lot :/
BD wrote:

the cartoon sucks :/
BD wrote: a lot :/
BD wrote: 16x :/
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Post by BD » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:15 am

what?!

It's dragonball.

The manga had like 20 pages per weekly chapter which were mostly people exchanging blows.

In the cartoon they took those 20 pages (which could be read in under 5 minutes if one took his time and tried to appreciate the art because there was no dialogue whatsoever) and tried to stretch them for slightly over 20 minutes. One page had to last 60 seconds.

Try to imagine reading an A5 format page for 60 seconds even when there is no dialogue, and it is maybe 4 or 5 panels, if not even a single full page panel.

Plus whenever the author would take a vacation or even a simple week off... the cartoon still had episodes!

Which meant that they had to fill 20 fricking minutes with stuff like:
- 20 minutes of aura charging in a week that had been taken off because that's what the last episode ended with and you had to make the episode despite the author being unavailable that week and resuming the week later.
- or make up stuff to be happening while those people were fighting. And naturally the continuity and in-universe plausibility was thrown off the window, and nobody cared that established in-universe facts were disregarded.
- or people "reminishing" stuff that in some cases HAPPENED IN THE SAME EPISODE OR THE PREVIOUS ONE.

So yeah. The manga was by far a lot better. And it's also something you can read with all ease in one day, maybe you could stretch it in 2 days. Try doing that with all the cartoon episodes.

'Cause it's supposed for kids, you know. Fuck them. Let them be bored to death even while watching that crap at 16x. Who cares, as long as there is ad revenue and merchandise flows.

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Post by --NightBattery-- » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:12 am

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oh well i guess i can't argue with that kind of logic, also goku is superman, and superman is jesus.
It's just that i never ever heard of some one disliking dragon ball mistakes passionately.
it was one of generation Y big meaningless things.

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Post by darkbutflashy » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:14 am

BD wrote:mostly people exchanging blows.
I vaguely remember the Anime being mostly about building up enough power for the next blow (which happened in the next episode - but only if nothing failed in the meantime).

However, The Alita: Last Order Manga had been this way during a great (and boring) number of chapters, too. Still the series is cool. And even constant fighting can be cool. Read Cyborg Kuro-chan, it's hilarious.
Try to imagine reading an A5 format page for 60 seconds even when there is no dialogue, and it is maybe 4 or 5 panels, if not even a single full page panel.
Oh, I sometimes do that when the story has slow pacing, like the mystery mangas written by Naoki Urasawa. My imagination fills in even more pictures.
Who cares, as long as there is ad revenue and merchandise flows.
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Post by BD » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:19 pm

darkbutflashy wrote:I vaguely remember the Anime being mostly about building up enough power for the next blow (which happened in the next episode - but only if nothing failed in the meantime).
Well they do that too, but usually in the manga it's one or two panels, unless it's a training thing (that is: building up enough power to make it thinkable to defeat the bad guy) but even there usually the focus switches onto people doing stuff and every now and then there is a panel on the guy that's training.

In the cartoon they spent so much time doing "oooh"s and "aaah"s that it felt like watching a slow motion climax build up between narcissistic body builders. What in the comic was a flash of power one panel long followed immediately by a blow in the cartoon it is unbearable. I've seen some charging up lasting even 20 minutes or more.

Now i only watch cartoons if by peer review i get told it was better than the comic/book that originated it (better, not same, i read one piece and naruto, but i don't follow their cartoons) or if people really tell me that it is a gem.
darkbutflashy wrote:However, The Alita: Last Order Manga had been this way during a great (and boring) number of chapters, too. Still the series is cool. And even constant fighting can be cool. Read Cyborg Kuro-chan, it's hilarious.
I tried the cyborg cat... wasn't my type of humor. Alita last order was a bit "meh". The original Alita was incredible, this is an action comic with heavy combat focus with slapstick humor. There's a dozen a dime of comics like that, even featuring cyborgs. With boring infodumps and fart jokes i wonder if the guy making it is understanding why his originale story was a success. Though i imagine his behavious is so baffling only because he is actually wearing a trollface mask and doing this as a spiteful "take that" to the huge amount of requests to continue the original story.

Anyway when i read something like that (combat focused humor) i tend to prefer either intelligent humor or unintentional humor. Like "Red Eyes". It is so baaaaad and serious in its motives i find it irresistably hilarious. Or "Arms"/"Spriggan" (two comics, same author) really trash gems. Talking of fembots and going to the other side of the spectrum "Hexxaxion" was an action/combat comic which was an affectionate parody of sentai/megarobot genre featuring many T1000-like fembots. That one too was a real humor gem, i laughed so hard i felt in love with the story.
darkbutflashy wrote:Oh, I sometimes do that when the story has slow pacing, like the mystery mangas written by Naoki Urasawa. My imagination fills in even more pictures.
Well it depends on the pacing of the story. When you see a couple of punches being exchanged or a martial arts move you don't go musing over the details of the scenery, like if he is consistently drawing the background from different angles while keeping the same details in the same spot. (hint: he was.)
darkbutflashy wrote:General rule: it's the pile of crap which makes it possible to do art on its top.
I usually hear a variation of that: "it's the crappy jobs that pay the rent" from which it is inferred that you do art on your free time, even if your are an artist.

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Re: Some New Manga

Post by darkbutflashy » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:07 am

BD wrote:In the cartoon they spent so much time doing "oooh"s and "aaah"s that it felt like watching a slow motion climax build up between narcissistic body builders.
You are not alone.
I usually hear a variation of that: "it's the crappy jobs that pay the rent" from which it is inferred that you do art on your free time, even if your are an artist.
That's not what I meant. It's not the individual artist who has this problem but the merchandise industry as a whole. The more art, the less sales, though there are exceptions.
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