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Re: Critique this hot premise

Post by dale coba » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:07 pm

gynoneko, that fight was last year.

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Re: Critique this hot premise

Post by gynoneko » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:10 pm

Really? LOL sorry, but this was bumped to the top and I didn't recognize it. I didn't notice the date, my bad.
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Re: Critique this hot premise

Post by dale coba » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:25 pm

gynoneko wrote:1. Dale, don't take offense to what Asato said. It sounds mean to you, but you do understand that it is likely he didn't mean it that way. Besides, you did escalate the problem by replying in a negative manner.
A year later, you have no idea if or how many times Asato had recently dropped the same unproductive note into conversation.
My suggestions would be to leave some way that the wife would be able to be herself again, but only at the whim of her husband. Some way he still had control over her, and there is nothing she can do, so he has a psychological control over her even when she is herself. Just a thought anyways.
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Nope. I've seen The Stepford Husbands. I'm not into creating beings who will seek revenge later.

You have concern for the characters, and want them to enjoy a somewhat morally workable resolution. What you propose is as much fan-fic as it is porn. I'd sacrifice all the ladies in a story to a doll-virus plague outbreak, just so the leering viewer can mock-identify with those innocent men who are horrified, as they try to fight a battle they can not win - and which will leave them as reluctant owners of numerous nuGirls. Oh well, might as well make the best of things.

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Re: Critique this hot premise

Post by gynoneko » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:06 pm

In my defense, I was using an App for my tablet that doesn't show the dates of the posts, except for the latest. And the latest was "Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:49 pm". I wondered how it got so populated with posts so fast...
I see... with the way you describe it, it sounds more like a campy Rocky Horror meets Evil Dead feel but with Stepford Wives mixed in. At least that is the impression I get, I could be wrong (as I often am). Offend for offense sake. (Again, no ill-will, just an observation).
I also didn't mean it as a way to seek revenge, but as a way to play mind games, but I assume it doesn't work for you.
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Re: Critique this hot premise

Post by dale coba » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:04 am

gynoneko wrote:In my defense, I was using an App for my tablet that doesn't show the dates of the posts, except for the latest. And the latest was "Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:49 pm". I wondered how it got so populated with posts so fast...

Aww, s'alright. Waren't even tany smartie-phones back when this here postin'-board whatcha-call-it was wrotened.
I see... with the way you describe it, it sounds more like a campy Rocky Horror meets Evil Dead feel but with Stepford Wives mixed in. At least that is the impression I get, I could be wrong (as I often am). Offend for offense sake. (Again, no ill-will, just an observation).
That is totally the right neighborhood.
The porn genre label further guarantees the viewer that:
- eroticism is the highest priority,
- cruelty is not a central purpose,
- and gore is absent.
The Wood's integrity is thus secured from accidental deflation.
I also didn't mean it as a way to seek revenge, but as a way to play mind games, but I assume it doesn't work for you.
I think that would also be a very fun video to watch. I try to pin down very specific scene-tones, when they occur to me. My versions go much farther into power dynamics than most viewers want; but then I think it's easy for them to take a premise I offer, pull it back from the extreme, and add some flowers or soul-searching, or other mammal-brained fancies to their liking.

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Re: Critique this hot premise

Post by DukeNukem 2417 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:51 am

dale coba wrote:Concept for our film makers: With her in the room, a wife's girlfriend and her husband talk of their shared lust for her.

First, a simple, non-robot example:

A husband encouraged his wife to get breast implants that were nearly obscenely large.
Instead of being protective of her,
her girlfriend could be lustful at the result, and not object to the husband's "gift" to his wife.
The wife could be gleeful about them, not see any downside.

It's a bit unreal, all their attitudes in harmony.
It's a fantasy, right?

The girlfriend behaves in a way that treats her friend as a sex object,
so that we may enjoy their lustful enthusiasm about his wife's beautiful features,
and their plans for her.
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Enough with the non-robot example.
This is a robot story,
(but tell the actress playing the girlfriend to imagine as if their conversation were about breast implants, and that all three characters feel good and horny about the wife's new breasts.)

Instead, what if the husband had his wife Automatedâ„¢? (full nanite upgrade).
The wife has been rebuilt as a non-self-aware machine, programmed to be fun.
In this fantasy, the girlfriend could act lustful, and not object to the husband's "gift" to the wife.

Everyone is in harmony!
In this world, we can agree that wife Automationâ„¢ is good.

Though the girlfriend's attitude would look unreal... it would also look very HOT!
(and there's an explanation at the end of the story,
where the GF's own robot nature is also revealed
- not that an explanation must always be given, to explain a world in which
Automationâ„¢ is the accepted reality. It's porn; mystery is hot.)

More to follow...

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To me, there's nothing "hot" about this premise. This is the kind of bullshit that smacks of power fantasies and wanting to be "in control, all the time". ASFR doesn't HAVE to be about control, or domination, or any of that crap---yet every time you suggest an idea, be it for a story or a video, the gynoids (or converted women, or WHATEVER) have NO will of their own, and are just there to fuck anything that even remotely looks like a human male.

If anyone else here shares my opinion, they're welcome to quote me on this. If they don't, that's fine by me---but I, for one, DON'T find this premise "hot". I find it chauvanistic, stupid and demeaning to ASFR as a whole, and you are NEVER going to see anything like this in any of my stories. There are tons of writers on this forum---LongTimeLurker, WilloWisp, Baron, DarkRexx, DollSpace, Saya, Robotman and even myself---who can make an ASFR story work without all this "Women are mindless fuck machines" context, and even though I don't speak for them, and there's the whole thing of "everyone has their own particular way of appreciating ASFR", YOUR way of "appreciating" it goes beyond the boundaries of bad taste for me, personally.

I think I've said all I need to say.
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Re: Critique this hot premise

Post by Epitaph » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:58 am

DukeNukem 2417 wrote:To me, there's nothing "hot" about this premise. This is the kind of bullshit that smacks of power fantasies and wanting to be "in control, all the time". ASFR doesn't HAVE to be about control, or domination, or any of that crap---yet every time you suggest an idea, be it for a story or a video, the gynoids (or converted women, or WHATEVER) have NO will of their own, and are just there to fuck anything that even remotely looks like a human male.

If anyone else here shares my opinion, they're welcome to quote me on this. If they don't, that's fine by me---but I, for one, DON'T find this premise "hot". I find it chauvanistic, stupid and demeaning to ASFR as a whole, and you are NEVER going to see anything like this in any of my stories. There are tons of writers on this forum---LongTimeLurker, WilloWisp, Baron, DarkRexx, DollSpace, Saya, Robotman and even myself---who can make an ASFR story work without all this "Women are mindless fuck machines" context, and even though I don't speak for them, and there's the whole thing of "everyone has their own particular way of appreciating ASFR", YOUR way of "appreciating" it goes beyond the boundaries of bad taste for me, personally.

I think I've said all I need to say.
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Re: Critique this hot premise

Post by dale coba » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:03 am

You anger amuses me, but that's only because fictional characters are often made foils of their own foolish rage. I'm too used to laughing at the fictional characters. I should have pity and be supportive. But you're angry and out of line and unreasonable, so I'll try to let you burn it off without feeding your monster with my ego.

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Re: Critique this hot premise

Post by DukeNukem 2417 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:05 pm

dale coba wrote:You anger amuses me, but that's only because fictional characters are often made foils of their own foolish rage. I'm too used to laughing at the fictional characters. I should have pity and be supportive. But you're angry and out of line and unreasonable, so I'll try to let you burn it off without feeding your monster with my ego.

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My "monster"?

You want to see my monster? Go read "The V.I.C.I. Diaries: Cold Blood", and you'll see my monster there---a monster who, by my own admission, was born of anger and frustration and rage. You'll see that monster, and you'll be DAMN glad I'm nothing like him...and that Faceless is confined to the page, and doesn't reflect who I am.

I write stories with characters. You write sick power trip fantasies.
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