New Site is live!

Xeran · Post by **Xeran** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:48 am

Yeah. It's up and running. I have a ton of new content that will be getting pushed on a regular basis. Right now there's about 5 new sets on the site and some great work you may have already seen.

Thanks for all your support,

Xeran

Xeran · Post by **Xeran** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:49 am

www.synthoids.com

rs5420 · Post by **rs5420** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:34 am

Hey Xeran!

I joined up yesterday when your site went live.

Great start, I must say.

Of course it's not cheap, but hosting a paysite isn't either.

Good luck mate!

fnord · Post by **fnord** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:50 am

Wow those first few pics brings back memories. Wondering about content what will there be for $30/month $100/half year? Any films? Any interactive stuff? Any games? Guess what I'm getting at is what should I expect for the money? I had a membership back when...............(dial up) how will the site be different from the old one given the advances in technology?

Xeran · Post by **Xeran** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:32 am

Probably no video at least as of yet if the site is a hit then totally!

But more images, stories and flash animations for right now. I'm working on some fun stuff for sure!

There's actually a new version of the members area that is being finished right now, so expect a better image viewer and internal area for sure, probably will be finished in about 2 weeks or less. Fingers crossed.

Trace Venom · Post by **Trace Venom** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:23 pm

Although I'm flat broke at the moment (therefore unable to afford a subscription) I would totally pay for new steady content from Xeran. I'd consider it an investment and hope it pays off for xeran well enough that it affords him the opportunity to develop bigger and better stuff for us. The same principle applies to other content providers, such as RoboLust.

So, I'm curious to see how this works out and hopeful that it does so favorably for all of us.

And if my fortunes change in the next few months, I'll chip in and buy a subscription.

P.S. I was a subscriber of the old Xeran site back in the day, and I can safely say that his stuff is totally worth the money.

Sthurmovik · Post by **Sthurmovik** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:58 pm

You gotta be kidding, $200 a year??? Malebots is only $50 a year and that site comes with forums and chat!! You're making this sexual orientation completely uncompetitive with these unreasonably high prices

Seriously dude. Take a hint from the iPhone App Store. They showed that if someone drops the price from $20 to $1 the vendor sells 40 times as many apps because it becomes an impulse buy. You're charging more than one of the good online dating sites and at least those have the chance of getting me some real nookie!!

Karel · Post by **Karel** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:32 pm

Well, I hate to rain on the parade, but the site looks very familiar; as in, exactly the same as "Synthgirls" five years ago. I mean, I could be wrong, it might not be exactly the same, it was a long time ago, but it's certainly not an improvement.

I'm sorry. I generally think criticism of the people on this forum as tightwads is unfair, perhaps because I'm personally fortunate enough to be able to happily purchase anything that interests me, but in this case, so far, I think I'm erring on the side of thrift. I'd gladly pay $100 for six months of constant updates and quality streaming video; not manips that are over a year old that I've already seen before. Freaking zanimation studios inspires greater confidence.

Xeran · Post by **Xeran** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:58 am

The site graphics on the front end are the same other than a new logo and a new set of girls on the join page. The member area is roughly the same right now, except for there are "NEW" sets not from Synthgirls. I costs a lot to get this type of site up and going, and I have a new inside coming in the next 2 weeks.

Look, I'm unemployed, love doing this stuff but it costs money and takes a ton of time to do. If it's for you that's awesome, I'll keep making great work and great stories, if it's not that's okay as well, being unemployed I couldn't join either so I understand.

The site is just an interface for the content. There is not going to be a chat or forum, that's what this site is for. What would the point be, I can do it but I'm not sure why when this is the hub for pretty much everything.

fnord · Post by **fnord** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:23 pm

Ok, I do understand the unemployment stuff, I'm out of work too,

My questions and I'm not trying to beat a dead electronic horse.

But Just how many pics, how many "moving" pics, or how many other things? ex. stories are currently available on your new site?

How often will it be updated and with what minimum updated content will it be updated?

To me these are the critical questions that have not been asked yet. We all know the price. It is past time to stop bitching about it. The question now is how much content, how often, and what minimum will be provided?

Not my intent to sound like an a$$ but given time between the announcement of the site than it finally got up????
Not to mention my own personal experience as a member of the old site these are questions I need answers to before I can plop down $100.00 (I can do it thinking about doing it but hesitant at this point.)

Post by **Spaz** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:18 pm

I agree.

I wouldn't want to put any money into it unless I had an idea of just how many stories, pics...etc you currently have.

fnord · Post by **fnord** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:57 am

Well I wondered if I was being too hard on the o'l Beaver there? So I decided to give his site a try.

this is what I found for my $30.00 WARNING SPOILER!!!!!!!!

1st page(or slash page) one manip (wish would have used the subject in photo spread) severed arm laying at bottom of pic.

spread 1(5 pics) the better of the 12.
#1 older female simple face w lines,#2 same female pannel on leg,#3-5
interesting liked them domestic blis (good Job on these but should be more).
2nd page of manips 2 girls 9 pics old stuff seen it before felt ripped off
3rd page 12 pics older woman not that great looking hohum
4th page 9 pics old stuff mother/daughter no glam really felt ripped off
5th page 4 pics old stuff getting the felling really ripped off
6th page 6 pics ok with captions pritty girls, not much "art work"very short
7th page 4 pics only one new
8th page 3 pics nice should see alot more of this
9th page 1 pic again nice again should be alot more
10th page 12 pics old stuff from old site (ok to use some old stuff as filler but for a whole spread?????)
11th page 9 pics again entire photo spread old stuff
12th page 8 pics ratty looking blonde girl no glam at all.

total 62 pics most old stuff no real glam given all the free porn pics on the net no real creativity or imagination went in to choosing or selecting these most really are MILF minus.

$30.00 divided by 62 pics = about .43 per pic over all
$30.00 divided by 19(new but not very good) =about $1.57 per new pic

Now please don't get me wrong as an amateur hobby site that dose not charge this is ok but taking in to account it is a pay site I feel my review is just.

Review: VERY VERY POOR/ tons of low quality old stuff very little new stuff, extremely low quality for a pay site. I know the site just went up "finally" but to open with this content is the equivalent of opening a new grocery store with 3 loaves of bread and 45 lbs of old meat (pun intended)

I personally feel "FUCKED" paying $30.00 for one month the content quality amount and surprisingly art, creativity judgment or thought is sorely lacking from this site. I would personally feel embarrassed to charge anything for what this site has to offer. I feel this is in no way any type of "labor of love" but just hack and slash to get the site up and rake in what ever it can produce......SHAMEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Xeran · Post by **Xeran** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:17 am

That's really too bad, I plan on bringing back the old stuff into the site and packing it with new stuff as well. I'm not just going to throw all my old stuff away because you already saw it.

And the free images you speak about will get you sued faster than you can blink an eye. I had that problem with the old site. So you have to buy the images and license them unless you know something I don't. Nothing is for free and when you think it is it bites you.

As for the new stuff, there's a lot more coming along with stories and captions with each image.

There will be a Flash area where I've added voice and animation. You can expect about 4-5 new sets(pending on how many images are in the set) a months and about 3 old sets a month until they're all up.

You can cancel your membership and I'll give you your money back.

Sorry you weren't happy,

Xeran

fnord · Post by **fnord** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:49 am

Hey there Beaver

black =Xeran (the Beaver)
red=Me Fnord

That's really too bad, Yes I was really looking forward to the site I plan on bringing back the old stuff into the site and packing it with new stuff as well. I'm not just going to throw all my old stuff away because you already saw it. There is no need to "throw away" old content but the vast majority is from the old site to which I did have a membership to, sure supplement with old stuff is fine but a new site with a price tag attached to it "should" have more new than old. Come on really think about this one.

And the free images you speak about will get you sued faster than you can blink an eye. Now this one as seems to be directed in my "general" if not specific direction at me personally, I'm going to ask JUST WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, think about this one before you answer! I had that problem with the old site. So you have to buy the images and license them unless you know something I don't. Well actually how about this http://www.fembotcentral.com/viewtopic. ... ght=#15122 or http://www.fembotcentral.com/viewtopic. ... ght=#10879 this Nothing is for free and when you think it is it bites you. Yep nothing is free and as you acknowledged I did pay for this site "with an open mind and good intent", I also DID pay for my membership with the old site, so you are making very little sense about this one. I do understand you may be frustrated.

As for the new stuff, there's a lot more coming along with stories and captions with each image. That's grate it's cumming well so is the pull out of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. as I stated you opened a new grocery store with 3 loaves of bread and 45 lbs of old horse meat. Why did you not but forth your "GRAND OPENING" with your best? Very disappointing!

There will be a Flash area where I've added voice and animation. You can expect about 4-5 new sets(pending on how many images are in the set) a months and about 3 old sets a month until they're all up.AGAIN:That's grate it's cumming well so is the pull out of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. as I stated you opened a new grocery store with 3 loaves of bread and 45 lbs of old horse meat. Why did you not but forth your "GRAND OPENING" with your best? Very disappointing!

You can cancel your membership and I'll give you your money back.
On to the nice nice stuff. Hey Beav' I'm also out of work I understand times are stuff. At first I thought about the refund, well how about a complementary month after this month is over? I figure this will give you some time to get your site up to snuff. Guess you could consider this constructive reinforcement show me what your really capable of I know you have it in you just bring it out. When and if you do improve I will not think twice about writing a review and maybe even eat my hat Come on Beav' show me what you really can produce! (or if not let me know how to cancel )

Sorry you weren't happy, Well, I would not say I wasn't "happy" I am more so very disappointed and disgusted with the lack of effrot.

Xeran

Robotka · Post by **Robotka** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:29 pm

So i also can not understand where is the point of making an empty pay site ???
Beter way is to launch the site for free and after couple of monts when you saw it is popular to make it payable...

When i enter in the site 2 days ago and saw that registering cost money it bring me so negative feelings about future of this site...
I am dissapointed of your choice of way for making this site

Xeran · Post by **Xeran** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:08 pm

I've added the new image library beta, turn your sound up for "White Panties", she has sound. And so will the others soon. Enjoy, hope you guys like it. The link for the beta image gallery is at the top of the members area, full screen is great since the images are almost all hi-res.

Thanks,

Xeran

Xeran · Post by **Xeran** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:17 pm

fnord, I only wish you knew how long - hard I work on this stuff. To hear the words disgusted, is well it's pretty hard.

A lot of people haven't seen my old site. There was new content on the site and there's actually more new content tonight, a new image viewer and an awesome sound wave attached as a story line for the image set.

It's an ultra bad vibe your giving the site because you've seen the some of the content. I mean you know I've been around for years, the last thing I do is crap, or at least I think so. I spend hours on the art and hours perfecting my work and technique. I'm going to post all of the old images over the next few days, along with some new. So the image library will be packed, then the whole site is moving over to the new image viewer.

Anyways, I welcome all feedback, I take it to heart and will try better.

Thanks,

Xeran

Robotka · Post by **Robotka** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:56 am

Xeran, i like what you say

And i am sure you will make a good site

jknight_2000 · Post by **jknight_2000** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:26 pm

To be perfectly fair, I was a member of the original Synthgirls site, and this site and its "upgrade" has the same problems. The original synthgirls.com site was well made and at $10 US a very good price, but eventually Xeran couldn't keep up with update schedule and the membership turned on him faster than people to Sarah Palin. This isn't the people's fault because that were used to and accustomed to high quality stuff, but it wasn't his fault either because it is difficult to continuously create new material that matches the with demand every week.

So the original site went dead and we were all sadden by the loss.

But this inference of the site at $30 for membership with a lot of the same quality stuff, seems to offend some people. Personally, I am going to what about three months before joining just to make sure that Xeran's site is worth the higher price.

I would hope learns from previous and current people and decides to add video to his site, or even better become a reseller of fembot/female androids video or VOD to his site. That would certainly ensure the longevity of the site.

Wishing you the best of luck, Xeran.
JKnight2K

rs5420 · Post by **rs5420** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:01 pm

Hey Xeran, the site is making interesting progress IMO.

I don't know what you intend to do exactly with the new gallery, but please make sure that the zoom function works good in the Flash API, as it seems to be offset right now.

And can I ask you a favor? If you post one of your old sets soon, would you please set the one of the girl on your "Join" page? She's my type of girl.

This one: http://www.synthoids.com/images/join.jpg

Thanks!

fnord · Post by **fnord** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:19 pm

Beav'

It's been killing me not to write today, but I'm going to hold my comments "for now" but how about a response to JKNIGHT_2000's post?

Xeran · Post by **Xeran** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:55 pm

You certainly didn't hold back in your other responses so I can't imagine what you'd have to say now. such as your review of the site in the main area.

Might as well post it. And the I'm not sure what question your referencing, I've already said I can't afford video. Do you think I'm sitting getting rich from this site? If I can make enough to buy a few pizzas and take my kid to a movie I'd be happy.

foo · Post by **foo** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:10 pm

By the looks of things, someone has made some classic mistakes.

Seeing another paysite somewhere that charges $30/month and has lots of users doesn't mean you can do the same. Such sites are premium offerings to the mass market, which have at least two of high quality content, large content volume (that they have paid for - you can't run a paysite on free stuff) and recognition/reputation. They can command high prices because they have these qualities. From what I'm seeing here, Xeran is missing all three - content isn't necessarily brilliant, there isn't that much of it, and there's no positive reputation. Therefore the outrage seems to be entirely justified - this was previously on offer for $10/month, and now the price is $30/month: what changed?

Sympathy votes tend to work when the supplier isn't the one suffering. Fairtrade products net a premium based on the promise that fair prices will be paid all along the supply chain to ensure everyone gets a fair wage. Xeran being unemployed is irrelevant. Having spent 15 of the last 24 months out of work, I know it's not pleasant. There are plenty of business gurus that have written vast quantities on pricing. The core strategies encompass whether you're providing a broad or narrow range of product, and whether it's garden variety or premium product. Being unemployed sadly isn't on any established list of qualities that let you get away with charging a higher price. Put simply, if I'm going to provide a service that others provide at five times the price, I need to justify to my prospects why I'm doing that based on features and benefits. That I'm currently out of work is not a product feature, and it's certainly not going to benefit the customer. Sorry if it seems harsh, but them's the breaks.

Then there's the issue of whether the market needs or can sustain yet another paysite. It's one of those ideas where lots of people can say "Hey, I can do that!". People look at Amazon and say "Hey, Bezos got rich even before Amazon made any money!" set out with a business plan that amounts to "copy Jeff Bezos". They are then surprised when nobody will give them any money - investors will say "If your plan is good, then why should I give my money to you when I can do it myself? Alternatively, I could just plough my money into Amazon instead." Someone comes up with the clever idea of cloning Google with some ex-Google staffers, starts Cuil, which turns out to be a steaming heap. There are a number of outlets serving ASFR folk's needs for a hell of a lot less than Xeran. It's a small and somewhat crowded market, so the prospects are already slim.

It seems Xeran is setting himself up to fail, and will only be upset when things inevitably fall apart. I don't mean him any ill, just a reality check - looks like he's getting a bit carried away.

Xeran · Post by **Xeran** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:09 pm

The site is really only 16 bucks a month if you sign up for the 6 months, that's only 6 dollars more a month than the old site. The old site had a lot of content, people would join then quit and join 6 months later. Basically ripping me off at my expense. 6 months of content for 10 bucks, great, then they'd cancel and join later (many many people did this). So now there's the option to that. if you like the stuff, like what the site is about then do the 6 months, that's what it is there for. 16 is a pretty much half the price, like I said it's 6 bucks more a month, it's not much to pay considering and there will be new content on a regular basis and some of the cool things that are coming to the site.

I'm out of work right but I never used it as a ploy for you guys to give me money, I hope it didn't come off like that, if you did that's awesome and I thank you for your generosity. I'm not using it as an excuse and hope it didn't come off that way. Also I am working on that set with the new girl that's on the join page, so expect that soon (should be there Sunday). She gets in a car accident.

Anyways that's that,

jknight_2000 · Post by **jknight_2000** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:12 am

I knew this was going to happen. Don't misunderstand my comment, Xeran. It is great that you are bringing back the old site. I was just stating something that others at this group won't say. The fact of the matter is, honestly, Xeran was it is the membership drop that caused the site to go down or was it the demands on you to create new and innovative content. Most sites of this type, have the same common failing -- consistent membership. Hell even, one of the most beloved porn sites, Danni.com has a brief membership drop, during the last twelve months. This is the reality of the world and economy that we live in.

As I said previously, I wish all the success in the world to Xeran in his endeavor, I just made a simple suggestion -- that would further guarantee the success of this site. If you haven't figured what I meant, I was thinking that joining forces with an another site who generating similiar interests as yours.

Best wishes,
Jknight

New Site is live!

New Site is live!

Forgot the site

Future plans

hmmm

Ouch

Wow!

New Image Library Up

:(

Balance

I'm not sure I understand

Missing a few point

Damn it.