A taboo subject?

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Re: A taboo subject?

Post by TheShoveller » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:27 pm

Svengli wrote:Thinking about it, I think I only find damage disturbing if what's happening is it's a stand-in for a fembot-in-name-only being abused.

Generally the trope of androids being a "new class of subhuman slaves" is troubling to me because it reads coercion into the relationship of a person and a thing.

Violence where a droll's head falls off and they lie inert until repaired doesn't bother me.
Violence where the owner does things which would torture a human and the dolls screams and maybe "bleeds" (grease or fake blood) bother me. Gruesome but obviously fake violence of all sorts on TV always bothered me.

I suppose everyone would have their values but it seems annoying to use a robot to simulate abusing a human. Once you can command a robot, it seems like the problem that frustrated you should be gone.
There's actually a chapter in a manga called Doll that deals with something similar to that. A guy has his fiancee run off on their wedding day with another man, and so he buys a "doll" (android, basically) and gets it remodeled to look like his ex-fiancee, complete with the ability to feel pain and to always love him no matter what. He then proceeds to torture said faux-ex-fiancee, who keeps crawling back to him, only so he can reject and torture her more. We're talking messed-up stuff - putting cigarettes out on her, even cutting off some of her fingers at one point.

How that particular chapter ends is sad, but also happy, in a fucked-up manner. The same chapter deals with a girl being bullied at school while her parents and teacher do nothing about it, and eventually jumps off a building in an attempt to end it all. This particular doll's owner happens to be in the area with his doll when it happens. Since the doll can't kill herself because of her programming, she runs under the falling girl to break the fall and save her life, which also "destroys" her for good in the process. The girl's saved by an act of kindness by that doll, and they're both grateful to the other for being the one who kind of ended their torment (as the doll dies and the girl is finally given attention to her issues by her parents and teachers.)

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Re: A taboo subject?

Post by Saya » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:55 pm

So, seeing as how this is quite honestly a thing for me, and that I feature it in my writing to a degree, I figure I may as well throw in my two cents.

The damage aspect is one of my biggest turn-ons when it comes to the fetish. The sight of a fembot being destroyed in some way or another, or at the very least seriously damaged, has a lot of appeal to me. But I also like other "destructive" aspects of the fetish. Namely, malfunctions, disassembly, and even total reprogramming. At the same time, my favorite kind of fembot is the sort that (outwardly) acts a lot like a person, down to having human drives, ideals and passions. Naturally, this makes me question if what I am into is in any way "wrong" or "taboo". Throw in some S&M themes and some objectification themes as well, and you got something that can make you feel pretty darn "taboo", to use evil boo's term for it.

However, two things about how I interpret it make me feel less freakish in regards to it. The first is that while I enjoy destruction, I don't really enjoy sadism. Which is to say, I don't enjoy suffering. When I roleplay a fembot in a heavy destruction scene, or if I write one for a story or RP with someone in that regard, my biggest turn off is when fear, sadness and pain get involved in the mix. I've reconciled with the fact that, ultimately, destruction for me is one variety--albeit the most extreme--of exposure of the fembot as an artificial being. And that is what really gets me turned on about it. Because, more than anything, the way a fembot might react to its own destruction, along with the act of destruction itself, exposes the non-human aspects of their psychology and physicality really well. In my fantasies, a fembot reacts to its damaging or reprogramming with anger, irritation at the inconvenience of it, or just outright gets turned on by it. Self-defense is a part of it, and in fact I really like the idea of a badass terminator 'bot beating the crap out of those who want to destroy her, even if that ultimately results in her being a bunch of pieces. Screaming at their demise, crying and sobbing at it, or feeling actual physical pain are HUGE turn-offs for me. Again, it's because I feel that there's a difference between the destruction of a fembot and enjoying it because it displays their artificiality, and enjoying fembot destruction because you want to see them suffer. I emphasize, however, that if someone does enjoy that, they have that right, so long as they keep in mind my next point. I should also point out that for similar reasons, my only interest in destruction, malfunctioning or reprogramming themes regards built fembots. Converts, of both the cyborg and mind transfer variety, are also a turn off for me in those scenarios.

And that point is, the understanding that there is a distinct and very large difference between what is done in the fantasy setting of a story, roleplay or other fictional medium and reality and real life. There are plenty of fetishes out there which I disagree with, and also those that I find disturbing for reasons of personal morality and in some ways legality, in some cases viscerally so. But there's a very real, very tangible difference between wanting to see a fictional character in such a scenario and wanting to enact that scenario in reality. It's at the core of the "Safe, Sane and Consensual" foundation of BDSM and S&M fetish and roleplay. The things I enjoy here I would never want to see done to someone in real life. Obviously, the question of if this would apply to the sort of fembot that I desire were they a thing in real life is one that I cannot really answer, but I know concretely that the last thing I would ever want is to harm another human being, or treat another human being in such a way as to physically, psychologically or emotionally harm them. Even if I do destructive things to an RP partner's character, I always ask to make sure if I am going too far for their liking. Thus, the biggest issue regarding such fetishes is how you treat people in reality, not characters in a fantasy. Because, ultimately, it is a fantasy and it isn't real. That might sound like an incredibly obvious statement to make, but I feel it's important to remind oneself of that fact.

Also, as an aside, at the risk of potentially offending some people, there is an important note I'd like to add to this. We are not here to kink-shame. It can be easy to deride other peoples interpretations of this fetish. Some of us can have strong opinions on aspects of this fetish, or the integration of other fetishes into technosexual kinks. And while we can voice our dislike of fetishes, and how some don't really strike a cord with us, there's a difference between that and outright criticizing someone for what sexually attracts them. Kink shaming undermines the nature of Fembot Central as a place for those with Technosexual fetishes to share their fantasies. It goes beyond "political correctness" to point this out. We're all here to share our fantasies, content and experiences with others. Mocking someone for what they enjoy, calling them sick or demented, making condescending comments regarding their fetish defeats the entire purpose of this site.

What's more, unlike certain other fetishes like BDSM or the Furry Fandom, there aren't really a lot of other places for people with Technosexual fantasies to go other than Fembot Central. Many of us can relate to feelings of alienation that we had when we first joined, thinking that few people were sexually attracted robots and the pleasant discovery that, no, you were not alone and there were a lot more people than you thought out there who were into it. So, we're here to abate feelings of shame, alienation and self-loathing that people may have about their sexuality. While I hate to make it sound like the community here at FBC has acted that way (the VAST majority of the time, people I have corresponded with here have been nothing but warm and accepting about my kinks and the kinks of others), I feel it's important to keep this in mind, and to remind others of that should they feel the need to mock, judge or otherwise make another person feel uncomfortable about an aspect of themselves they have no real say or control over.

Apologies for the absolute WALL of text there, but I really felt like I had to get that off of my chest, especially that last bit.
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Re: A taboo subject?

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Re: A taboo subject?

Post by D.Olivaw » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:58 am

I've been mulling over posting something in this thread, but after that, Saya, I don't think there's anything I could add that you haven't already said. Great post.
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Re: A taboo subject?

Post by Trace Venom » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:29 am

Saya wrote:
Apologies for the absolute WALL of text there, but I really felt like I had to get that off of my chest, especially that last bit.
I wholeheartedly agree with everything said in Saya's post. Thank You for this. :notworthy:

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Re: A taboo subject?

Post by --Battery-- » Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:12 pm

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All aboard the destruction hype train♫

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Re: A taboo subject?

Post by evil_boo » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:29 pm

Damn Saya, you really nailed it. Bravo girls.

I whole heartedly agree with you. I love destruction for all the same reasons. I guess it just takes all kinds and we are all tickled by different things.

Also battery thanks for posting a drawing and making me snort on the bus, thus drawing the attention of nearby humans..

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Re: A taboo subject?

Post by Calvanian » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:53 pm

Damage is A OK if it's all on her.
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Re: A taboo subject?

Post by Esleeper » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:27 pm

Given my preference in depicting my fembot character as a fully sentient being with her own will and desires, I'd say that my distaste for fembot damage and destruction is no different from my distaste for seeing a flesh-and-blood human being hurt or killed- I couldn't even begin to describe how wrong it feels to visualize, and the idea of writing it myself is almost unthinkable.

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Re: A taboo subject?

Post by DeepDamage » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:25 pm

Actually, I am getting into fembot destruction and damage because I love testing the limits. Personally, I am interested in seeing a very sadistic male dom trying to destory a lovely fembot and she deciding to take revenge against him. But that it is just my taste. :) Currently, I am working on an series of sci-fi horror shorts based on this idea.

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