Love + Robotics = Lovotics

[--NightBattery--]

a little misleading when they say artificial hormones, more likely Digital hormones. and not even true then. but it's allright.

[darkbutflashy]

Ok, so there's a new tamagochi out there. This time the fuzzy logic behind the scenes is declared "artificial endocrine system". Bingo!
If someone says the robot has a state-machine which is calculating an appropiate reply from internal state and certain thresholds, the magic is gone and all we see is a robot. But if someone says the robot simulates a biological system (hence doing exactly the same as described above), we see an artificial being and are fascinated.

Maybe all we need is in the buzz of certain words, "the magic". If so, I'm really downhearted.

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[--NightBattery--]

it's like a Jacques Vaucason's duck but at least is a robot

[darkbutflashy]

No, that it isn't elaborated enough isn't the thing I criticize. Because it is: read their papers linked on http://lovotics.com/. It's the way we react to keywords like "love", "hormones" and so on. Like the blogpost Robotman linked to exaggerated it. Sure, a machine could simulate that, have "needs" and "moods" calculated from other data, mimic an animal or even human. But with all the algorithms on a paper, it's always a simulation. It's like you know the magician's trick.

On contrary, my canary is still a mystery to me. He sleeps when he wants to, eats what he wants to, sings when he wants to, leave his droppings where we wants to, flirts with his mirror image when he wants to... I really like him. But I'm just an oddball.

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[Stephaniebot]

If anyone wants to inject robot hormones into me, I wont complain lol!

[--NightBattery--]

would we ever be capable of create and recognize artificial emotions or we will always assume it's fake because we understand it?

[darkbutflashy]

would we ever be capable of create and recognize artificial emotions or we will always assume it's fake because we understand it?

Most times we won't understand and don't want to understand. We just want to use it. Buzzwords and sophisticated marketing are enough to make us happy. There's no question if this is real or not - it's fun and that's enough.

But sometimes I want to understand it. And while I dig deeper and deeper into the mystery, my goal should not be destroying an illusion imposed on me, but exploring the beauty of the formulas and logic creating it. It's the latter what I like about machines. And nature, too, but nature is still far too complicated for our minds to understand in a whole.

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[--NightBattery--]

i've heard that awareness and memory are the great today neurobiologist challenges everything else is (to make it sound mundane) is a bunch of potassium and sodium getting out and in the neurons in a very high quantity and in different times and routes that make it hard to trace. i think some of those concepts were first understood in circuits and computer processing.
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any way i wouldn´t buy a lovot because it´s not appealing to my eyes. i pity those science guys! they should have hired a poet*.

[darkbutflashy]

i've heard that awareness and memory are the great today neurobiologist challenges everything else is (to make it sound mundane) is a bunch of potassium and sodium getting out and in the neurons in a very high quantity and in different times and routes that make it hard to trace. i think some of those concepts were first understood in circuits and computer processing.

Neuronal networks ("artificial intelligence") are designed after nature, so nature was first. But in general you are right. The gap between high-level concepts like awareness and low-level concepts like nervous transmission is hard to understand. Awareness etc. can be analyzed by psychological experiments, nervous transmission by measuring voltages or ion concentrations. So we can look on input and output. But there isn't yet a "debugger" to see what happens with "state" when something happens.

any way i wouldn´t buy a lovot because it´s not appealing to my eyes. i pity those science guys! they should have hired a poet*.

Hey, that's where the marketing takes over. You really want a lovot, it turns out to be a sexy battery-babe. Trust them.

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