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The painter, by Mirage: Critiques

Post by A.N.N. » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:59 pm

Shes gorgeous!
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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Devil » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:48 pm

Interesting...

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by A.N.N. » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:42 am

These last 2 were awesome! Love the shots with the top half of her head removed!
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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Devil » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:56 pm

Oh boy.

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:14 pm

Well, back at home, bad stomach flu... next 5 days of chicken broth only diet... yum,..

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by zerodin » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:21 pm

Some critiques.
The man, and the human-looking gynoid look nearly identical to the characters from past comics.
I realize that some artists have a set style, but you need to move out of your comfort zone, if you want to grow as an artist.
From a technique standpoint, there isn't much evolution going on there either. Your 2014 comics don't look terribly different from the stuff you did over a a decade ago.
The story has the trademark, overly sappy emotional plot, which will probably eventually devolve into a slasher film-esque horror plot twist. If it seems like I'm being presumptuous, keep in mind that I'm basing this off of your past works. There is always some overly emotional plot, or one involving some horror movie angle. If you want to become a better writer, you need to stop defaulting. Dude, M. Night Shyamalan is not a good role model for story telling! There is no surprise when all of your comics turn out one of two ways.

And one thing I've said before, but I wanna reiterate. This is a sexual fetish website. A lot of people are here for fapping material, not the next thought provoking epic novella.

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:03 am

Sight...

No this bs again...

Mods, can we stop this bullshit crap. I am sure someone wrote this kind of stuff to anyone else, it would make them stop posting here alltogether.

If don't like my stuff, why do you read it then?

Right there, shows me this is petty jealousy... Seriously...

Oh wait, because you feel you need to express your own opinion on me, while I got lots of other people that actually do enjoy my work.

Okay, let's ask the board then.

Dear board members, Are you liking my comics lately ?

Also, note, this story is long to be over... see the previews...

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:13 am

I find one thing extremely very funny... You complain this should be only almost Sex scenes after sex scenes..

Go watch some porn then...

OMG, there is a story element in the story!! Damn It!
And it's making me think and use my brain, instead of me jerking off !!...

Oh no...

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:01 am

Well, myself, I never did, could and never will post something like this to anyone anywhere. I always encourage or be positive to fellow artists. If I don't like it, or not my thing, I just keep my own opinion to myself.

But that's me..

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by zerodin » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:52 am

Mirage wrote:Well, myself, I never did, could and never will post something like this to anyone anywhere. I always encourage or be positive to fellow artists. If I don't like it, or not my thing, I just keep my own opinion to myself.

But that's me..
But encouragement and adoration is is only half the equation. Learning how to, not only weather criticism, but also learn from said criticism, is very important. People who are just in it for the praise, aren't going to grow very much as an artist, writer, musician or game developer.

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by zerodin » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:45 pm

Instead of complaining or CRITIZING me, write a story, draw something, do something positive instead.
By that logic, end users shouldn't be allowed to have negative opinions about anything. I could write a very lengthy explanation about why that logic fails hard, but no.
This is the kind of attitude that has kept you, and will continue to keep you, at the level you are now. :thumbsdown:
I wash my hands of you and your diva mentality.
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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:51 pm

Yes, I am so evil... Bwawa... Telling people to be positive....

So evil....

When I see if the critization has merit, I'll think of it... but I know when it's hate or jealousy disguised as a critic, I ingnore it...

And bye, Zerodin, no tears will be shed from me, sorry...

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by --NightBattery-- » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:01 pm

come on guys.
all positions have been stated, no one is going to get more ground-
make peaces and live with each other idiosyncracies.
maybe you should put in your signature something to prevent people from giving you feedback, only gratitude.
also
can i make fan art of your mascot mirage ,mirage?

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by --NightBattery-- » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:31 pm

"Of course bro, how could i say no to such a Tight motherfucker"
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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by 33cl33 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:50 pm

Well, our auteur DID ask for feedback...
Mirage wrote:Okay, let's ask the board then.

Dear board members, Are you liking my comics lately ?.
To be honest... No. Never liked the arguably childish mentality, the odd emotional issues, the chicken scratch sketches, the weak command of the English language (which in itself is not a fault. I'm just not a fan of artists who dabble in languages they have yet to competently master) or the bitchy attitude toward anyone who offers any word of advice.

But like I've said before... Create for you first, Mirage - then for your fans. Don't worry about the haters. :dancing:

But if you keep kicking the haters, we gonna keep hatin' :nerd:
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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by --NightBattery-- » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:55 pm

Mirage wrote:Too late Battery, I think I just drew exactly your drawing in action.. (L)
Mind= Blown
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Also taking it as a yes.
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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:58 pm

I know just as haters, I have lovers too.

Can't please everyone.

Like I say, if you can do better than me, please do so. I know there is a lot more talented people than me here.

PS:. in just less than 15 days, this comic past the 1000 views... That doesn't include the views at wiki too. Just saying...

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by smalk » Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:59 pm

Just sayin': "Direct access to CPU" doesn't mean anything. It's only a chip that does complex computations. To alter the protocols programmed into an AI you should access something like the "core memory" or "behaviour modules".

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:56 pm

I hope you guys realise, the more comments like I been getting lately, will probebly or has already dicourages some people of ever posting stories or comics here.

Bang up job, guys.

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Sophisa » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:24 pm

Mirage wrote:I hope you guys realise, the more comments like I been getting lately, will probebly or has already dicourages some people of ever posting stories or comics here.

Bang up job, guys.
Most artists deliberately seek out that sort of comment and criticism, to know what they're doing wrong or could be doing better, to grow and improve, to expand their talents. If you took on the criticism you're being given, your comics would be much, much better. Instead taking on a dismissive attitude and trying to dissaude criticism with false arguments like this only causes people to disrespect you, and thus your work. Accept their comments with good grace and take the lessons to heart.

The art style hasn't changed in ... ever, since I've seen your work. The framing especially, makes it hard to approach. It feels like the 'camera' as such, is right in the characters face, like you're breathing down their necks. It's fine for certain, individual frames, but for every single one? Unsuitable. You need to pull back. Show background to express setting and context. Show whole bodies to express emotion and character through poses and body language. Doing this would press you to improve your anatomical technique, which is very lacking - your bodies look very unrealistic.

Not only is their anatomy odd, your characters all look exactly the same. Same shape of face, same hay-thatch hair. You only seem to draw the same thing over and over. I can't tell one character from another, even across comics. There's no variety, no visual flair. It creates a feeling of 'seen one, seen them all', so why even read the next one? Try drawing some different body and hair styles, with practice and variance your art style will improve.

Adding to this is your repetitive story telling. Overly sappy slow emotion scenes in poor English and typesetting, with suddenly a random horror twist, for no reason and with no prior setup. It's very, very amateurish. You need to build up to a twist, hint at it, give just enough to expect something, but not what it is. Suspense is much better when subverting an expectation, instead of currently, looking at your work and going "yeap, mushy dime-store romance novel lovey-dovey, whoops, here comes the cannablism". Try writing something different, push yourself out of your comfort zone. Also, take a step back, and read your dialogue out loud. It doesn't flow well, and doesn't sound like real conversation at all. Think of it not how you've written it, but how you'd say it to someone. Spell-checking would also help immensely, I can see at least half a dozen errors in that last page alone.

Your work has potential, but frankly you're wasting it wallowing in a comfort zone of repetition.
Upgrade me.

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Sthurmovik » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:56 pm

Thank you for taking the time to provide some constructive criticism sophisa.

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:20 pm

Well, I think many are missing key points...

My comics I post here, yes, are very crude, why, because it's ASFR material. I do draw other comics. in my life, that are better quality. Just for today, I draw 5 pages, all under an hour around each. Also, still done on my 3ds, that is very limited, obviously.

Anywzy, my point also, Why would I spend hours fixing my typos, grammer and do better art, for here? Doing proper new characters, new style, is simply not worth the effort for me.

As one of the few artists here, I think people here would be happy at least to see some Asfr comic, at least.

For my stories, hey, I am a romantic. Not a smut writer, sorry. Also an horror fan too. You know going into my stories, what to expect. It's my style and thing.

I think what I find that is very wrong with many people here, is, if don't like it, no one is forcing you to read or see my art. Just ingnore me. Simple as that.

I always been on the fence here, as I am a story teller first, then, a Asfr lover. I am still one of the biggest contributor to this community, and this I think frustrate many of you.

Nothing is stopping anyone from drawing or writing your own stuff...

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Sophisa » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:38 pm

Mirage wrote:Well, I think many are missing key points...

My comics I post here, yes, are very crude, why, because it's ASFR material. I do draw other comics. in my life, that are better quality. Just for today, I draw 5 pages, all under an hour around each. Also, still done on my 3ds, that is very limited, obviously.

Anywzy, my point also, Why would I spend hours fixing my typos, grammer and do better art, for here? Doing proper new characters, new style, is simply not worth the effort for me.
These are not excuses. If you don't feel your work is worth putting in the effort, then why should anyone feel it worth the effort to read? Why should anyone care enough to give you the praise you desire? You obviously have no respect for your audience if you feel you can say this in their forum. And seriously, a 3ds? No wonder it looks so rough. Use something worth it.
Mirage wrote:As one of the few artists here, I think people here would be happy at least to see some Asfr comic, at least.
For my stories, hey, I am a romantic. Not a smut writer, sorry. Also an horror fan too. You know going into my stories, what to expect. It's my style and thing.
Also not an excuse. Your 'thing' as you put it, is just pure laziness, pumping out shoddy, substandard, frankly rubbish and expecting it to be praised? Fobbing off valid commentary that is attempting to help you with weak, unjustified lines like these is just attempting to justify continuing to wallow in mediocrity. Any real artist would be striving, taking this seriously, and using it to practice and improve. Even as a secondary project, a minor thing to fill time, it's still an avenue to express, to practice, to improve, and using it would benefit ALL your work. If you can't see that, then it's you that has the problem, not your critics.
Upgrade me.

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:24 am

Obviously, some people here as mental and personel issues, that goes way beyond my comics or stories.

Like I told REX last week...

It's only a comic.

Simply enjoy it or don'read it then.

I will repeat myself, if you can do better than me, do it!

This reminds me as other sites, like when they talk about the WALKING DEAD tv show, they bitch and critize it to death, then say it's their favorite show. WHY DO YOU WATCH IT THEN?

Same for me, don't like my stuff, it offend you entire soul, DON'T READ IT THEN!!

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Re: The painter, by Mirage

Post by Mirage » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:56 am

I just went to look at the first pages of this comic, and you know what, THEY ARE PRETTY GOOD, actually.

Hell, I am so confident with it, I am going to email comic publishers even today. I did get published already, so, why not.

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