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Re: robolust video review

Post by Trace Venom » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:35 am

eyebore wrote:For those shopping at Frank's clip4sale site, I finished viewing the Vanessa Lee clips and think they turned out pretty nice. She did quite a nice job in terms of robotic movement and really had the blank stare down. I think Kendra did a little nicer job in terms of general acting and nailing the voice. I feel comfortable recommending both videos, and hope you enjoy them.
Awesome! I was indeed wondering how those turned out...

I'll put that on my "Must Buy" List as soon as I sort out my financial difficulties.

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Post by blond111 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:08 pm

Just a reminder if you could get Cassie Young she did some scifisexnetwork robot scenes that she was pretty good in. Under hypnosis she'd be amazing.

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Post by hypno1 » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:16 pm

Hi everybody,

sorry it took me so long to respond to your great suggestions and comments and of course your support but the last couple of weeks have been stressful and we are still not done working out the problems with our new computers and cameras. As you all know I am always open to constructive input and suggestions. The more you let me know about what you would like to see the better I can produce it. I want to thank eyebore and wjbaines for sending me their input on a regular basis and it certainly did help me a lot. As I mentioned the more feedback I get the better the content.
I thought about the idea of producing less and separating the shoots but quite frankly, we are not selling enough clips to justify a separate shoot at least not at this point. I mentioned in one of my earlier responses that we would have to sell over 100 clips just to pay for the performer and we are not selling even close to that. Don't get me wrong the robot segments sell well, just not enough to justify the additional cost. The girls get paid per shoot which allows me to add on some additional time for the fembot segments.
I mentioned the separation of the traditional hypnosis and the robot content because of the constant complains of some of the hypno fans. I know it should not be a big deal to have a couple of the fembot segments among thirteen to seventeen more traditional hypnosis segments but in all fairness it started off as a traditional hypnosis site and it should probably stay that way.
I am still contemplating when and what to do and I will give everybody fair notice (at least a month) before changing anything.
We rented a new and bigger studio which should help improve the shoots.
One last thing, we set up a couple of two girl shoots and now would be the time to send me your suggestions and story ideas, so I can work them in.

Thank you all again for your continued support
Frank

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Post by hypno1 » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:50 am

Hello again,

you might have seen the latest update, Lola Lynn on clips4sale. We tried using some of your suggestions. The story line and plot is a bit different and I had Lana do most of the repair work so you can see Lola's reaction much better.
Let me know what you guys think

Frank

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Post by blond111 » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:22 pm

Once again just throwning Cassie Young's name :)

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Post by eyebore » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:17 am

I agree with Kishin that the Eden and Marie clips turned out quite well, Frank seemed to really incorporate alot of the advise folks have been sending him lately. I also thought the Lola Lynn clips were much improved over her first attempt. I still think clips with two girls work better, I think its easier for the actresses two have another person to play off of, the extra person creates more opportunities for different story ideas.

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Post by andoroido » Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:37 am

And noticing that the Eden and Marie robot clips, like so many robot clips before, are the top sellers on the c4s site.
Nice work.

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Re: Thank you and more free previews

Post by AliceBot » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:46 pm

hypno1 wrote: We posted new previews on Youtube

Leah this weeks update on clips4sale

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQK1At2fe60

and Electra ( who could forget her)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nTPozX7o8s
Unfortunately, these two have been removed. :(

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Thank you

Post by hypno1 » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:20 pm

We at Hypno/Robolust like to thank all of you for your continued support and business in 2008.

We are working on getting some of your favorite girls back for 2009 and we are certainly glad that you enjoyed our last updates.

Speaking of which, we are trying to update this weeks fembot segment earlier so that you can enjoy it tomorrow during New Years day already and maybe even tonight.

Thank you again and have a Save, Happy, Healthy and prosperous New Year

Frank

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We are late

Post by hypno1 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:50 pm

Hello everyone,

sorry we are late this week with our update. The good news is that the clips are up now. We had some computer problem and I lost some of my clip descriptions. Writing the descriptions always takes me a while, as you might have noticed I am not a writer by nature. The fact that English is not my first language certainly does not make it any easier.

Anyway the clips are updated on C4S now and I hope you all will enjoy them, Ashley is certainly hot and she enjoyed the fembot segment immensely.

Have a great weekend

Frank

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Post by jknight_2000 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:55 pm

First off, you stuff is first rate -- you've incorporated a lot of suggestions from this forum, and it made your product even better (if that were possible - The Lola Lynn scenes are great examples of both.)

But, there is one thing that I think would improve the effect, the Kina tape was damn-near perfect. The malfunctioning-escort scenes, and the banter between the guy and his malfunction fembot is freaking hilarious. The Lola Lynn, Alicia, Eden & Marie, Delia scenes are spot-on.

Then, there are the Tatiana tapes (especially the one with the maid), I tried hard to see any redeeming quality in this, I CAN'T, I JUST CAN'T. No offense, but Tatiana is the only girl who doesn't seem to get the whole malfunctioning thing right, no matter what.

Maybe I'm crazy but there something missing in her act, I just can't point it out. But, for all 99.2% of the content on site, it is a definite recommend, no doubt about it. Thanks for all great content and your continued production.

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Some news

Post by hypno1 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:03 am

Hello everybody,

I am sorry for not having responded for a while but between getting new computers, HD cameras and a new studio location, my time was very limited, to say the least.
I agree with the last post, the girls you mentioned were really good and yes Tatiana did not quite get it.
Speaking of updates, I was wondering what you guys thought about the Megan, Lynn, Gloria and Danielle episode. We tried to use more effects and well, as you might have seen, some male action.
Let me know whether you have any suggestions and or story ideas and as you all know, I will try to use them.

Thanks

Frank

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Post by sweet860 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:37 pm

Might just be me, but I'm not really big on guys in my pron, so I would suggest no dudes next time

Again, just my opinion

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Cassie Young

Post by blond111 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:02 pm

CASSIE YOUNG :) Shes such a beautiful barbie doll and everyone would remember her from SCIFISEXNETWORK she did some robot and hypno acting. She would definately get you alot of business

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Post by andoroido » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:07 am

There's a reason almost all vid producers use tripods.

Frank chooses not to and it yields a shaky but almost watchable vid (with only about 20% closeups of elbows and super shaky bits where Frank loses concentration on the camera while trying to interact with the girls) when there's only one girl or two.

The last vids (with 4 people) were like watching shaky-cam from Cloverfield.

Just shows you can't have 2 different scenes happening between different pairs of people at the same time and trying to film both at the same time from closeup. It's just impossible.

Add in that Frank himself is another "character" and he's trying to film the interactions of 5 people at the same time.

Frank is just doing too much at the same time, he's directing, improvising the story, interacting, talking, improvising the shot blocking, and filming by hand.

Anytime one of those elements needs less effort (example, the girl understands what you need and doesn't need much extra direction; other example; 2 girl stories need less interaction from Frank) you reduce the workload - it makes the final product better, as the effort is less spread out over all the elements. I think a tripod would also help reduce the workload, too.

Appreciate the effort, almost like you were trying too hard on that last one, pretty disappointed with the result, but it was a laerning experience, I hope.

If it was just Megan and the guy, or just the 2 other girls, it might have worked out better.

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Post by Puppetmaster16 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:04 pm

Good points by Androido, though his criticism might be a bit harsh IMO.

I would also like to see a bit less involvement from the man holding the camera. I have no problem with it per se, but it's just not that necessary and at worst can be distracting. I always like to see more involvement from the girls in developing their own 'character' as well. As I'm sure you've noticed, you get far better videos from girls who seem to genuinely enjoy their role playing. Some of the best performers, such as Giselle, Wenona, Heather, and Megan, all seemed to really 'get' what it's all about.

I'm not so sure about involving guys in the videos - I guess it's fine but I tend to prefer women, whether it's one or more. To be honest, it's probably the main reason I chose to pass on those recent clips.

That being said, I greatly admire the effort you are putting in your videos and how you are constantly looking for new ideas. As it is, I'm always looking forward to your new work and hopefully it's proving more than worthwhile for you as well.

Keep it up! :)

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A question here

Post by Robofan » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:57 pm

A question ...I have seen the site and was wondering...which vid gives you the absolute best time for the money spent... I have been looking at some of the stories and some of the ones that are seeming to spark and interest is ones where the ladies don't know they are robots until something happens to them... But I was curious which gives you the best speech malfunctions movements ect... I saw that there was one with sex n it but was wondering if this was any good... Thanks

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Post by hypno1 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:29 am

Hello everyone and thank you for your comments and suggestions. The Megan and friends shoot was definitely a big one and although it certainly had some flaws, it was so far our most sold Fembot segment ever. We are not planning on changing our format of using girls only but it might be interesting to involve an extra person (without the sex maybe) to do some of the repair work which would make my life easier. I will try using the tripod more although given the space and the lighting situation it might not be easy. I will experiment with it and I am sure you will let me know.
I know it would be a lot easier to give the girls bigger parts but I am still not selling enough in order to separate the fembot segments from the hypno shoots, which does not give me much time to work with the girls, meaning prepare them. To hire the girls, particularly two at a time, for robot shoots only is at this point not feasible but as many of you noticed and commented on in private emails, the fembot segments are continuously improving. We do spend a lot of time and money, trying to improve the robot segments and here again the more we sell the more we can concentrate on making it better and eventually separate the two fetishes which would give us more time to prepare and select models who are better at it. We have been lucky so far, most of the girls have enjoyed those parts and thus given their best.
Keep sending us your input and most importantly your ideas and as you know, it might take a bit but it will be done.

Thanks Frank

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Post by skeetles » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:22 pm

Frank, great job with the site thus far. There's a reason your videos gain success, and it shows that you take feedback from your viewers!

For me, speech distortions are a huge part of the excitement when a robot malfunctions, or breaks, or what-have-you. The loss of control of tone, inflection, stuttering, and sometimes plain unintelligible speech are key elements here, and I think really add a lot to anyone playing the part. If there's a way to incorporate this greater in a couple vids to test it out, I think you'll see good results!

Keep it up though. Great stuff.

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Post by visceralpsyche » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:52 am

skeetles wrote:For me, speech distortions are a huge part of the excitement when a robot malfunctions, or breaks, or what-have-you. The loss of control of tone, inflection, stuttering, and sometimes plain unintelligible speech are key elements here, and I think really add a lot to anyone playing the part.
I'll keep this in mind for Visceral Black.... :wink:

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Post by eyebore » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:12 pm

First of all, to Robotfan, I would probably say the first Kendra Clips are the best example for quantity and quality of speech glitches, nice expressions and decent movement. Gisselle was my favorite, where movement was involved, the quantity or robot acting is less, but the quality is definitely there.


I think Kina Kai did a nice job on her clips, as did Capri. The second part of Leah Wild's pool clip ends with a nice malfunction on the floor. I guess its a matter of preference. For two girl scenes I suggest Nikki and Megan, Eden & Marie, and Bailey & Genie.

In regards to Franks recent stuff. Since dialog, speech tics, and stutters, are so popular it would probably be best if the girls didn't speak over one another. I don't mind additional actors, I think would allow Frank to step back and concentrate more on camera operation and directing without having to interject himself into the scene as much. I'm would prefer keep the scenes R rated as opposed to X rated. The ASFR material should definitely take president over the XXX material. I don't think it is always necessary for every actor or actress in a scene to be naked and I agree with Frank's idea of using extra actors to make repairs or tamper with a girls circuits.

I appreciate Frank's recent efforts to incorporate more props and special effects into the clips. His new studio definitely lends itself to more ambitious scripts.

I am of the belief, you use a tripod whenever possible. Some angles do not lend themselves easily for tripod use, in these cases the operator simply has to do his best to limit his movement and hold the camera as steady as possible. I think it is helpful not to zoom in and out or pan when your subject is stationary. During a malfunction scene I think it works to start wide angle, then maybe zoom in to about the torso up and maintain the zoom until the malfunction scene is complete. I personally like to be zoomed in close enough to see the the girls facial expressions, while still getting a decent view of her body and movements. I think there have been a few malfunction scenes that were diminished by a bit too much camera movement.

I think it is important to realize that we understand this fetish better that anyone else and it is up to us to provide constructive input, script ideas, and to just generally give folks like Frank a better sense of the type of material we would like to see produced. Frank has been very open to suggestions and feedback, so take advantage of this opportunity. The closer his material comes to reflecting what ASFRians are looking for, the more support our community is likely to throw his way. This may allow for a greater number, of more ambitious projects. I wanted to thank Frank for all his efforts, to date nobody I know has produced as much ASFR-related material as he has, and it is greatly appreciated.

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Post by ~? » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:25 am

eyebore wrote: I don't mind additional actors, I think would allow Frank to step back and concentrate more on camera operation and directing without having to interject himself into the scene as much.
Right, having a guy in the session is a perfectly fine idea if he's given the task of being the surrogate for the viewer, but that dude wasn't and ended up being pretty superfluous. There were too many subjects (four) to film with a single camera in the first place, without having the camera operator start interacting with the models and holding the camera two inches from the model's heads!
eyebore wrote:I'm would prefer keep the scenes R rated as opposed to X rated. The ASFR material should definitely take president over the XXX material. I don't think it is always necessary for every actor or actress in a scene to be naked
WHAT???
This is "prawn" so unless you plan to watch it at the next meeting of your local gardening club I can't fathom why you'd want it toned down. ASFR material is the focus, but full frontal nudity takes precedence over ten minute repetitive malfunctions!
While I'm on the subject Frank, please stop cropping shots at the waist; if she's gonna be nude, we wanna see it!
Oh, and more bottomless too! :twisted:
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Post by hypno1 » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:25 am

Hello again,

as I already mentioned in my last post, yes there were a lot of people in the Megan and friends shoot. I remember you love using the word "superfluous".
Anyway, I think I figured out that there are two very different groups of fembot/robot enthusiasts. There is one group that seems to like the malfunctions and the special effects. and then there is the second group which seems to like the zombie, at attention standing, masturbating, obedient type robot. Many of the other segments in my updates show the mindless, programmed, zombie walking, obedient love slave, which I think is pretty close to what the second group, I mentioned, likes to see. Whether those segments are labeled under the category Robot or not does not really matter because it really is the same thing.
Thinking that I was producing a lot of the above mentioned segments, I figured why not produce some of the more technical/malfunctioning robot segments. The rest is history.
Maybe we will have to offer two kind of robot segments in the future.
" This is "prawn" so unless you plan to watch it at the next meeting of your local gardening club I can't fathom why you'd want it toned down. ASFR material is the focus, but full frontal nudity takes precedence over ten minute repetitive malfunctions!
The above statement is your personal taste and you are certainly entitled to it but so is everybody else entitled to their taste and who is to say, what is the better taste.

I am not sure yet what I am going to do but taking a break from it all sounds like a good idea at this point.

Thank you all for your continued support and I hope you are having a fun weekend

Frank

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Post by eyebore » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:39 pm

I don’t mind nudity, or erotic interaction, I simply prefer situations that allow for more robotic acting, speaking and movement., I’m just saying that if you need an extra person in the shot for the model/actress to interact with, that person doesn’t necessarily have to disrobe to make a repair . I got the sense that several members wanted to keep the girl-girl theme going based on past post. Not everybody is as eager to check out another dudes junk. As far as malfunctions are concerned I enjoy them but they can be short and subtle, from a minor twitch, head tilt, eyes widening and blanking out to occasional jerky, ridged or uncoordinated movement. In fact I might suggest limiting there duration in favor of more frequency and variation

I would rather see more repairs and seduction scenes than lengthy masturbation scenes, but this is my personal preference, and is not necessarily shared by everyone else. There are usually aspects of each video I like and other parts I may care less for. I expect this, but I am grateful to have a steady source of asfr material. Frank can’t please everybody every week, that is why I have asked others to give him their feedback and ideas to help him produce material that better reflects the groups' preferences. We all have our personal tastes, and if I am off base with my assumptions that a large portion of this group is not seeking graphic hardcore content then feel free to relay your own taste to Frank. Please be constructive and respectful when doing so. It is not my intent to step on anyone’s toes, or kick over anybodies sand castle. As for Frank, please don’t misconstrue any criticism as a lack of appreciation for what you do. I think things are moving in a positive direction and I hope you continue to produce material for our community.

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