Have you think about this?

T-elos/Thurosis · Post by **T-elos/Thurosis** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:24 am

Konichiwa mi na san!
(Good afternoon, everyone)

I don't know , whether someone already post this topic before...

Explaination why i ask: After I watched the anime Azusa will Help

I was thinking about : what will you do if you know you have only a few days to live?

Why the most robots/androids (with/out emotion) sacrificing themself for us humans? (i don't think that the right answer is: "Because they are programmed to") There must be more than that...

Are those feelings or the way of thinking from Azusa (at the end of the anime)are they real or is she programmed to be so?
And if it is programmed are we humans then "stupid idiots" if we feel with those machines?

(Okay, I know the most anime with robots/androids like "Azusa will Help" are made in a way too make someone feel a litte bit sad, if something get precious and later get lost and it isn't here anymore)

I'm sorry my english isn't the best one (i notice that already -.-; )(i wrote in some kind of transleted "german sentences") " but please answer those question without complex explainations

1.000.000 x sorry to those who always explain something with complex words (really)

xodar · Post by **xodar** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:12 am

If I knew I only had a couple of days to live what I do would depend on the situation. If I were sick or extremely old I'd probably just lie there because I wouldn't be able to do anything else. Otherwise I just have to wait and see; I tend to keep things in as good order as I can with a will and insurance because you could have only a short time left and not know it.

"Because they're programmed to" is likely the best explanation. Robots are not alive, but only facsimilies of living beings. You don't have to include a survival instinct in their makeup. There are also living beings that kill themselves -- not just people who kill or sacrifice themselves, but entire species whose members are programmed to do so. Some female spiders bite and paralyse themselves so their offspring can eat them and female octopi starve to death caring for their babies.

T-elos/Thurosis · Post by **T-elos/Thurosis** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:57 am

xodar wrote: "Because they're programmed to" is likely the best explanation. Robots are not alive, but only facsimilies of living beings. You don't have to include a survival instinct in their makeup. There are also living beings that kill themselves -- not just people who kill or sacrifice themselves, but entire species whose members are programmed to do so. Some female spiders bite and paralyse themselves so their offspring can eat them and female octopi starve to death caring for their babies.

you mean that all those reactions (/emotion) from robots/Androids arn't real, even they can act like humans to 100% ?

By the Way!
When the times comes that robots/Androids etc. Can act or to be like Human to 100%. will you (or we Humans) accept them?

xodar · Post by **xodar** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:14 am

If a robot is so well done that I can't tell it from a live human I'll naturally treat it like one. You couldn't very well test it by, say, stabbing it because it could turn out to be a real human. Possibly you could do something totally unexpected or unpredictable, say hopping on one foot while talking to it and holding a grocery sack, or dropping your pants but such things have limited usefulness.

A better test would be getting it into a situation where it would have to exert considerable activity and see if it can do something no human that doesn't look like a professional body builder could do or if it doesn't smell sweaty afterwards.

In fact, much of our response to people is due to unconscious peceptions of smells and pheremones. You may not be conscious of them but their lack would probably give you an odd feeling something is wrong.

However, if they can't be distinguished from real humans we'll accept them. Imagine the surprise of a criminal type, though, who thinks he's found the perfect rape victim and clobbers her to little or no effect....

T-elos/Thurosis · Post by **T-elos/Thurosis** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:17 pm

Is that REALLY a good idea to accept them as humans?

The economy could/would be crushed by those androids or robots! They can many things better and faster than we humans. the result would be a economy crisis where many humans lose their jobs!
At the end humans want to call everything back to "normal" but then it is already to late, because the machines are superior then we humans...

and if it comes to war between humans and machines ... it will end like in the most sci-fi movies with 1 difference : at the end we lose!

xodar · Post by **xodar** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:35 pm

T-elos/Thurosis wrote:Is that REALLY a good idea to accept them as humans?

The economy could/would be crushed by those androids or robots! They can many things better and faster than we humans. the result would be a economy crisis where many humans lose their jobs!
At the end humans want to call everything back to "normal" but then it is already to late, because the machines are superior then we humans...

and if it comes to war between humans and machines ... it will end like in the most sci-fi movies with 1 difference : at the end we lose!

That's getting a bit repetitious. If you can't tell they aren't human you have to treat them as though they are to be safe.