Your ideal fembot is..........

keraptis · Post by **keraptis** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:09 am

I'm a little surprised this thread has gone quiet over the last few days. I guess I was hoping to promote more discussion, not squash it.

Was it something I said?

ehy · Post by **ehy** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:30 pm

Nah. I think those who had something to say said it, and those who didn't have anything to say... didn't.

And those who had something to say but were too chicken to say it didn't either.

CherryKiss · Post by **CherryKiss** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:53 pm

well, as long as someone has given this a bump, and I'm still hanging around waiting to see if my old long lost friend will maybe talk to me.... might as well offer my own opinion here

To begin, as far as the fembot fetish is concerned... I feel a little sorrow for those with the fetish. Because, in real life, it is not obtainable

not yet... perhaps not ever... That said, the closest, most intimate place for me to touch unreachable fantasies is online, and it is online that I've experienced all the robot fetish play I have.

To continue, that means, on the other side of the computer screen, there is a living, thinking, feeling person, and I would never want to treat that person as nothing more than a toy. A toy for a scene, sure, but afterward, we are equals again. In that sense, I would choose "companion" because the only "real" fembots I know are all online

However, I assumed the poll meant, "what if a fembot was available, in real life?" If that were the case, then the bot would be a bot.... no human mind inside... indeed I would not want her programmed with a real mind or real feelings, and I would want her to be a toy.. a fun, sexy toy. I would continue to find my companionship with other people.

If fembots ever come into being, I think they would almost certainly be toys, long before they ever even hinted at being companions, if they ever developed to the point of human intelligence at all.

I would really hope for a fembot who could express pleasure and pain, disappointment and hope... and I wouldn't mind a few switches to turn off one feeling or another, for a time as it suited me

a disappointed fembot, after all, would make me very sad, unless I was able to dispell that disappointment quickly.

Have I rambled enough yet? yes, I think so

be well!

Disthron · Post by **Disthron** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:05 pm

First of all I'd just like to say hello to every one. As this is the first time I have posted hear.

Any way back on topic. In a compatition between...

romance VS sex : Mirage

I choos romance every time. Also, romance can often lead to sex but straght up sex dusn't nesaseraly lead to romance. Don't get me wrong, sex if fun but I'd mutch rather have a companion who can shear my feelings for her.

In my fantesys the robots are pritty mutch like people. Thay have hopes and asperations like every one and the main way to tell them from a human (if thay havent been damaged in some way) are the diferances in behavior. Thay don't have "human minds" becouse there not human. However thay are centiant and thay do have emotions. I'm of the school that all centiant beings think alike, to a sertin extent.

Some might think it a little pointless but my fantasy fembot would still have to be convinced that I wasn't just another human ass trying to controll her.

Brytestar · Post by **Brytestar** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:57 am

I went with companion. The toy part would clearly be secondary. I just think that companion would fit my stories better.

fection · Post by **fection** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:32 am

So, to anyone who wants a gynoid as a companion - why a gynoid? Why not a 'real' woman? Is it the potentail for undying devotion? Being certain that she will not 'betray' you? Finding out how a different kind of intelligence works? Or is a gynoid just sexier?

keraptis · Post by **keraptis** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:52 pm

fection wrote:So, to anyone who wants a gynoid as a companion - why a gynoid? Why not a 'real' woman? Is it the potentail for undying devotion? Being certain that she will not 'betray' you? Finding out how a different kind of intelligence works? Or is a gynoid just sexier?

Well, as I said in my long post above, I think there is a fine line between "control" and "trust" fantasies, and a lot of overlap. I also think the line between "companion" and "toy" is a lot blurrier than it may seem at first.

Imagine for a moment that you got yourself a gynoid thinking "this is just a toy." You immediately have two choices to make that we haven't discussed at all. Do you ever take the gynoid out of the house and include her in social situations? And do you tell anyone she's a robot?

There are four possible answers:
(1) Don't take her out, and don't tell anyone: In this scenario, she really is just a toy, and a secret part of your life at that. You might be missing out on some exciting possibilities, but at least you're true to your word to yourself.

(2) Don't take her out, but tell people about her: This one's weird. You are basically admitting publicly that you've invested in what amounts to a cutting-edge blow-up doll (and thus subjected yourself to whatever abuse your friends decide to heap upon you).

(3) Take her out, but don't tell anyone: This is a very intriguing possibility and it's exactly where I feel the line gets blurry between "toy" and "companion." It's definitely possible that you still think of her as a toy -- but perhaps a toy whose value is augmented by the fact that you get to be seen in public with what appears to be a gorgeous, devoted woman. Maybe you use your toy to enhance your rep and get a real woman. But if you don't -- if you continue to spend time out with the gynoid -- you are at a minimum pretending to be in a relationship with the robot, and it could be a pretty slippery slope to treating the robot like a genuine companion.

(4) Take her out, and tell people: I'm not just talking about showing her off at a robotics expo or some other purely scientific / academic context. I'm talking about taking her out socially, and making it clear that you have considered (and enjoyed) her sexual potential. This is the gutsiest move of all ... and IMHO, at this point you had better treat her like a companion, or you might find people reacting very poorly to you for all sorts of reasons.

There is probably a good story idea or two in these musings but it's just food for thought. I should point out that all of my scenarios above assume that gynoids are extremely rare and/or brand new -- in a future world where robots are commonplace, probably most of what I said above wouldn't apply.

In summary I think that if she's "just a toy" then discretion probably requires that you keep her a secret. Which I think would be a very hard thing to do if you were really as excited as I imagine we'd all be.

fection · Post by **fection** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:39 am

I think we might be talking at cross purposes a little... I guess I was asking; if someone wants companionship, what makes a gynoid any better than a real person? Real people actually exist at the moment, so that's an attainable thing...
I wonder how much of our sexual desire stems from what we DON'T have. And then I wonder how satisfying it would be to actually have a fantasy fulfilled (not as an acted-out fantasy, but as actual reality). A fantasy is perfect, but reality never is (in my experience!) so I doubt 'owning' a gynoid either as a 'toy' or a 'companion' would be as satisfying as I can imagine.
Once again, that's not to say I wouldn't be curious if the opportunity arose...

keraptis · Post by **keraptis** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:45 am

fection wrote:I think we might be talking at cross purposes a little... I guess I was asking; if someone wants companionship, what makes a gynoid any better than a real person? Real people actually exist at the moment, so that's an attainable thing...
I wonder how much of our sexual desire stems from what we DON'T have. And then I wonder how satisfying it would be to actually have a fantasy fulfilled (not as an acted-out fantasy, but as actual reality). A fantasy is perfect, but reality never is (in my experience!) so I doubt 'owning' a gynoid either as a 'toy' or a 'companion' would be as satisfying as I can imagine.
Once again, that's not to say I wouldn't be curious if the opportunity arose...

I think you've sort of answered your own question. I wholeheartedly agree with your skepticism about how satisfying the reality of owning a fembot would be. And to me that's what this whole thread is about. On the "toy" end of the spectrum I believe the possibilities are not very intriguing, but then expectations are low so some form of "satisfaction" may be possible. On the "companion" end of the spectrum, the possibilities are amazing, though expectations are extremely high with a low likelihood of being fulfilled.

Fembot-Fem · Post by **Fembot-Fem** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:14 pm

What I really like in a Fembot is when, get this, she acts like a normal girl. Especialy the younger looking ones (Not getting into Lolicon ages mind you!), them going doing the daily grind like the rest of us is always cute for me.

That, and a police fembot. Ayah, especialy in the Japanese uniforms! So kawaii!

keraptis · Post by **keraptis** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:04 pm

Fembot-Fem wrote:What I really like in a Fembot is when, get this, she acts like a normal girl. Especialy the younger looking ones (Not getting into Lolicon ages mind you!), them going doing the daily grind like the rest of us is always cute for me.

That, and a police fembot. Ayah, especialy in the Japanese uniforms! So kawaii!

Fantastic post!

So, when you imagine such a fembot, who do you imagine is aware that she is a fembot? Are you? Is everyone? Is she?

Fembot-Fem · Post by **Fembot-Fem** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:41 pm

Well, I am about to get into a bit of political culture here so forgive me for it. Anyway, I think that what would happen is that her peers, teachers and other adults would know what she is. Kinda like being gay or a minority, I think being a Robot might be a 'hinderance' on a young person's life along with the stigma involved. (Though not to say being gay or a minority is something to be ashamed of, and certiantly not being a robot! I myself am Bisexual. ^_^) So she would try to hide it at first I imagine.

Of course, the old "I didnt know I was a robot" works well too, some instances better than others.

The one particular job that I really like a fembot to be in is the CEO role. Any company kind can do it. I think a Fembot would be a great business leader. A perfect body and a shrewd logical manner. That, and girls in bisnuess suits are hawt! ^_^

Now, since I just said all this >.>; I think I should get something else out.

The most iritating Fembot related thing I can think of is the old Pinochio steryotype where the Fembot wants to become human. I think it is the most species specific example of egotisim you can think of. Whatever happened to 'be yourself?'

Sorry, I ranted ^_^; Hope that helps with your questions!

barakuda · Post by **barakuda** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:09 am

Yeah I thoughts like that where the fembot is doing something like being a teacher and how humans or her peers look downupon her. But mabey a few would actually be her friend and defend her. what would others think if she got a human mate that treated her has human or is she found a android mate. i also like women in buissness suits. im more into the gynoid and how the interacxt with people in everyday life such has the buissness situation and how others react to her. How could we except gynoids if we cant except some humans brcause of are insecurities. Not that dont like the other stuff like some malfuction and such but this just more interesting has it doesnt seemed discussed hasd much. Some shows or movies have tried to bring this up but usually end the stupid way with the gynoid sacraficing herself to prove she actually had feelings and such.

Barakuda

Disthron · Post by **Disthron** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:10 pm

Hmmm..... you all seem to be thinking of situations that ocure ether now or in the near future. Where as my fantesys tend to be in the distant future.

Yeah I thoughts like that where the fembot is doing something like being a teacher and how humans or her peers look downupon her. But mabey a few would actually be her friend and defend her.

I find theas kinds of situations very interesting as well. It kind of peeves me that im most movies bots are portrayed as "the crazy bad guys". I guess I'm a romantic but I like a story where the bot makes a life for her self with the suport of her close frends.

What I really like in a Fembot is when, get this, she acts like a normal girl. Especialy the younger looking ones (Not getting into Lolicon ages mind you!), them going doing the daily grind like the rest of us is always cute for me.

This is kind of how I feel as well. Most of my fantesys take place in a matchean wourld (mars). It was settled by the bots, for the bots and it is humans that are in the minority. But there generaly cool with it. The bigest barrior is the age of the fembot.

After living a hundred years or so thay tend to try and not get to attached with humans as thay have a nasty habbet of growing old and diying.

So thay go about there buissiness working, playing, gowing about the daily grind as you say. But sometimes thay just can't help themselves

Your ideal fembot is..........

I would consider my ideal fembot...