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An idea for actual conversion, looking for willing subjects!

Post by FemBotTamer » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:45 pm

hi Fembots,

I have an idea for actual conversion to be a fembot, it still uses wetware but hey actual robotics and brain scanners seem to me like they are still a ways off in the future...
Now first of I do like fembots a lot but I want to own one, not be one.

My idea is fairly practical and can be prototyped in a weekend or 2 of hacking (I'm a programmer and electronics specialist).

OK so the idea is basically you take a EEG like the "emotive epoch" and teach it to recognize obedience and hard working vs disobedience and sloth in a subject (should be possible with a willing subject).
I would rig a small embedded computer (like an olimex allwinner a20/raspberry py/beaglebone)to provide the subject with tasks such as cleaning, cooking, and serving its master (if any), etc plan a reasonably full day schedule.
As the computer commands the fembot to be to do the various tasks, willingness is registered and whether she is working hard and focused. Tasks will be communicated to the subject using audio cues and text on a small screen in the peripheral view. This allows for easy scripting of commands.
Any stray thought will be punished via electric shock(or other minor pain giving technique), any good behavior rewarded via vibrator, This will create a Pavlovian response in the subject.
All resistance will be slowly worn away It will learn to love to obey its computer control program and it's master (if any), and all personality will be erased. (I hope/think)
Facial expressions (forcing a blank face) and vocal communication can also be addressed in various ways, I further imagine adding an exoskeleton for position tracking for more posture/movement control but this will be up to the bots to choose, unless they can't anymore.
There would also have to be a charging station where the electrical components are charged and later maybe biological waste is taken out and fuel is put in the fembot(I'm thinking soilent, google that). I imagine a Borg like alcove but where the parts that house the electronics and belts that hold them lock into so the fembot is restrained during this time. and ordered to sleep or think of nothing.
An auditory feedback should be added to allow the bot to know why it is being punished for faster learning (especially in the beginning)

Now an EEG on the head would be ugly I think and too easily removed (sure punishment for removal or disconnection can be added to discourage it).
But for epilepsy research implants that go under the scalp are already used, so given time this can be developed into a quite neat package, but there would need to be a proof of concept first.

If any FEMALE fembots are interested to try this, (this would mean coming here and becoming my test fembot, giving up your normal life, at least until the test is positive or negative), contact me on skype: bla.arg with the contact request "fembot reporting for duty" we'll discuss it then. there will be costs involved for me so, components time feeding fembots.
If there is any interest in this It will be built. I do intend to develop it as open source, but possibly not initially since you need a lot of specific hardware and not to mention willing wetware(people) to be able to debug it.
Help (especially with the medical side of things) would be appreciated!

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if there is medium interest I might do a kick-starter to see if this can be a product.
if there is a lot of interest I don't know, start a hotel staffed by fembots? nowhere cleaner on earth :P
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Note that this setup can has legitimate medical uses, such as forcing someone off drugs, smoking and alcohol.

I welcome thoughts and critiques but please only from those who actually have used EEG's know enough about psychology, etc to tell me why this wouldn't work and not just flame this as a crazy idea.
I know it is hence the prototype stage.
Also where else should this notice be posted for maximum exposure?

P.S: I came up with this together with a girl that wanted this, and the disappeared... but I think the idea is too good to pass up.
P.P.S: I do mean female, because I do not want to be dealing with horny boys if the reward system goes a bit overboard, too hetro for that.
P.P.S: since the training the computer to recognize brain patterns has to happen for every user and that alone will take weeks I don't think this can be used on an unwilling subject.
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Post by --Battery-- » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:16 pm

I like your idea a lot. I am pretty sure there must be a market for it. And the fetish area sounds like a great testing ground.
If you ever get close to get it done (and after adecuate number of safety tests) you should think in patents.

perhaps a Reddit could be a place to start exposure?
BDSM circles?
Of course people will dismiss you until you start showing little bits of real stuff, you know.

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I can imagine an evolved version of such device united to an amputee incapable of functioning without it in such a way that she is even able to be remote controlled until she loses all her humanity.
But that is evil outside the field of Fantasy. Sexy tho.
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Post by Stephaniebot » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:23 pm

Yes, really, really impressed with your thinking, I must say.

As to the issue with the EEG cap for now, and the ugly look, couldn't you just put a silver hood over the top of it, or something, to camouflage the look? Pretty much what I had on my fembot suit, when I wore it. Yes, its about 10 years old now, so not really still wearable on age basis! Implants would be easier, but practically doing that, yourself might be tricky? As to having a computer reading my brain waves, for weeks on end, absolute heaven!

Yes, I love the whole exoskeleton idea, but then again, I'm someone who thinks the more robot like I become, the better. As for the charging station, that just sounds divine. And yes, I think your idea is absolutely brilliant.

Sadly, currently, I'm one 'little' operation away from having all the correct girly bits, everything else is done, as all my papers show me as female. Have to say that getting me horny, with all the female hormones and everything, would be a highly unlikely event! Being honest, I'm not bothered about the reward side of things anyway, just interested in being turned into a robot, or as close as is possible.

Have to say I love the hotel fembot idea, that would a dream job for me.

So yes, if you think you can work with a Trans Woman, then PM me here, and I'll sign up very willingly
I'm just a 'girl' who wants to become a fembot whats wrong with that?

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Post by FemBotTamer » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:40 pm

I have no problem working with fully converted trans women.
The sexual stimulation would act as the reward part, even though negative stimulation is about 2x better then positive stimulation it would be good to have both.

On the subject of patents, they are evil, and this counts as prior art if it is not deleted from the forum, etc. So a patent on the general idea is gone the moment I posted this :)

I have been looking at where on reddit to post, I'll link all here I think. and Even though I known when the narwhal beacons I do not know these corners on reddit
Thanks for the image, maybe you could do one with latex covered fembot, with exoskeleton and collar and a chastity belt like contraption (must keep the sexual stimulation unit inside :P ) and need to couple with a waste extraction tubing in the alcove and fleshy bits are too imprecise for that, I think.

Don't worry I'll build the prototype whatever happens but that may be in a month or 6 months depending on interest.

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Post by darkbutflashy » Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:23 am

I seriously doubt you can draw conclusions from an EEG other than eyes open/eyes shut, and sleeping/awake. A trained expert in the field in addition can see if the EEG reaction to sudden stimuli (sounds/color pattern) is creating a normal or an overreaction. The latter can be a sign of being susceptible for epileptic strokes or migraine.
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Post by FemBotTamer » Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:13 am

an EEG's software can be trained to recognize a state/thought/concentration/level in a subject. it will have to be retrained for each subject.
it is like building in software an expert for that specific person's brainwaves. fot that specific thought.

it can recognize the abstract thoughts up or down, why would the state of hard focused work be any different? or the thought patterns related to obedience?

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Post by darkbutflashy » Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:27 am

That's the alpha/beta wave distinction. The Nekomimi boys made a good job explaining everyone it is connected to concentration or muscle tonus. Yes, it is – but only if the eyes are shut. With open eyes beta waves replace the alpha waves (Berger effect) so you cannot see anything about concentration or muscle tonus in the EEG when the eyes are open. Anything that is connected to Gamma waves, which would be distinctive, is hard to reproduce by free will.
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Post by FemBotTamer » Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:10 am

I admit I'm not an expert on this, but are you or are you just quoting what you have read online?

even so that is not the biggest obstacle, if it is hard to reproduce by fee will, the idea is to have someone willing so you can go over the data at a later stage and look at someones activity so that you can learn from that data, no?
even so you can read thoughts while users eyes are open such as up/down. I have seen this used for detection of of frustration and rage while driving. and that was an older version of the headset.

This information will push it towards a higher range of device definitely, and shows the complexity of this project. Thanks!
I might have to go for an openBCI unit.

the necomimi is a fairly limited device though I can imagine it would not be capable of what I want.

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Post by xerxes31415 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:53 am

So I'd say to avoid Reddit if possible. You probably don't want the trolls of the world descending on a sincere request.

I'd suggest getting involved in your local bdsm community, as I can imagine many subs willing to do this. If you want more info, feel free to pm me.

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Post by FemBotTamer » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:30 am

Perhaps I will. When it is in the prototype phase.

How do you all think about this, Someone called it morally reprehensible(elsewhere). Since essentially all we(subject and me) would be doing is voluntary behavioural modification, and the worst it does is a pain trough mild electrical dischare (I'll buy a premade unit build for this so there is little risk of damageing the person).
I don't see it.

You might as well arrest uncles for giving sweets to their grandkids....

They also said I'd need a licence... For giving someone a shock they agreed to? They can always opt out early.

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