Fembots are different from the Hypnotized

[dale coba]

Most video producers first have experience doing hypnosis-based stories. Hypnosis helps the performers get into the zoned-out zone; but perhaps those scenes are precisely the ones that should be cut, because they don't help the fembot-lovers.

We have long discussed what we think fembots can or should be, but there are elements of hypnosis which, strictly speaking, don't belong in fembot stories. Hypnosis tropes have been needed by writers who couldn't imagine better alternatives.

Name a problem in this thread, and together we can brainstorm up solutions.

For example,
1) human women with brains need to repeat phrases, again and again, to memorize them or to "be programmed".

Fembots don't need to echo, echo, echo, echo; but the reader/viewer wants evidence of... control, repeating is evidence of continued control - of a hypnotized person, not a fembot.


2) The logic of a story often dictates some audio output from a fembot, like feedback to humans, telling that the installation is proceeding. Again, this information can be played out in too much detail, because I think we remember the way NASA engineers talked, like we want to hear about every individual step in a brand-new experiment. That's not how the Apple iFembot is going to talk when she starts up, prattling about "initial boot sequence completed".


You can't just rip this stuff out of the text. The hypno-based lines perform important functions, and something new must be installed to get the jobs done, to move the plot with exposition and to keep hitting the "fembot" note.

I've been trying to re-imagine the boot-up/installer sequences as primarily enjoyable rituals for new owners. "Remember buying your first car?" it's like some ad, trying to stir up the image of anticipating, going to the showroom, being respected by the sales staff as a man of means and taste, and driving off the lot at the wheel of your new 1958 long-finned Shinything.

The sales could have been made through a catalogue, but the rituals came to have a value. The essential information still belongs in a ritualized interaction. A wedding is a contract, buried inside layers of a mega-ceremony that begins long before picking a dress, and continues at least through the honeymoon. Your fembot shouldn't bore you with details. I'd rather hear her pledge her undying love and/or her absolute objecthood (with just the necessary practical details hidden somewhere amidst the fun).

- Dale Coba

[darkbutflashy]

That's not how the Apple iFembot is going to talk when she starts up, prattling about "initial boot sequence completed".

A typical customer of polished Apple products would be turned down, yes. A typical geek (and fembot fetishist) won't. So it's all about the storytelling and by no means a general rule.

[dale coba]

I think that was my major point, that the storytelling is at the core, and those needs must be met - either by traditional means, or with an alternative approach.

Many of our stories are about fascination with the details. Those folks would select "verbose" every time, and it's exactly right in scenes like that.

I'm thinking of fetish videos, often trying to please both hypno and fembot lovers. They could use some options, alternates to approaches which have been overused.

The iFembot probably will quickly identify the fembot fetishist, and offer to recite all her specs, technical and physical, in a sexy voice. That would be a fine video, and I don't remember seeing any video which tried seriously to do that right. Write that story, please. Sweet Delilah wants stories to vocalize, and maybe she hasn't done one like that.

- Dale