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Hi there.
I'm genuinely sorry if this breaks the (absolutely fair enough) no AI rule: I'm just wondering if anyone could PM me a link to off-central sites where AI content is shared. I think I got a discord invite at some point but I seem to have misplaced it.
I've been playing a bit with Chat GPT and have some stories reaching near completion stage.
I'm genuinely sorry if this breaks the (absolutely fair enough) no AI rule: I'm just wondering if anyone could PM me a link to off-central sites where AI content is shared. I think I got a discord invite at some point but I seem to have misplaced it.
I've been playing a bit with Chat GPT and have some stories reaching near completion stage.
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I was doing some stuff but the site I was posting to just kind of went kaput, the Mod/Admin of the site has disappeared completely a few months ago (he used to be a contributor to this board as well) and I honestly hope he's OK, no warning, just disappeared. I kind of stopped making vids at that point but I just went all the way back to one of the first videos I created 3 years ago and am in the process of remaking it as a short. I won't post any links here, but if you want links to that other site (which is still up, just not being updated anymore) or where I put my hobby vids, hit me up.
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OK, so again, not looking for trouble - just looking for help, or a sense of the popular opinion...
First up: I've been working on a new 'video' (can't quite call it an animation) and due to the constraints of the source material, the end result is not exactly going to be 'hi-res'. How much of a problem will that be, do you think, if it looks, at times, like it's been ripped from a VHS cassette from the 1980s (or earlier, if they existed then)?
So, follow-on question: Does anyone have any skill, knowledge or advice in upscaling video for free? If so, feel free to message me.
First up: I've been working on a new 'video' (can't quite call it an animation) and due to the constraints of the source material, the end result is not exactly going to be 'hi-res'. How much of a problem will that be, do you think, if it looks, at times, like it's been ripped from a VHS cassette from the 1980s (or earlier, if they existed then)?
So, follow-on question: Does anyone have any skill, knowledge or advice in upscaling video for free? If so, feel free to message me.
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To AmosBurton7 I'd like to say publicly here that I fully enjoyed and appreciate your content. I only hope that you have more in store of what I consider an evolutionary step in ASFR content. Your "Expired Warranty" animation is an instant favorite in every way, (sleeper, story, situation, all and only fembots, etc) and I must say I haven't enjoyed anything ASFR in a very long time if you know what I mean. Thank you.
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fection wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2026 2:43 pm OK, so again, not looking for trouble - just looking for help, or a sense of the popular opinion...
First up: I've been working on a new 'video' (can't quite call it an animation) and due to the constraints of the source material, the end result is not exactly going to be 'hi-res'. How much of a problem will that be, do you think, if it looks, at times, like it's been ripped from a VHS cassette from the 1980s (or earlier, if they existed then)?
So, follow-on question: Does anyone have any skill, knowledge or advice in upscaling video for free? If so, feel free to message me.
Hi Fection!
Thanks for all your contributions and work! I tried to send a DM but looks like it's stuck in my outbox so hasn't gone through yet!
Here is a popular site (Topaz Labs) for upscaling https://www.topazlabs.com/
It's not free but if I recall the pricing is reasonable compared to other options.
I'm sure everyone would be happy with anything you released even if parts of it are "VHS" quality!
If you have any other question about tools or workflows let me know and I can try to help.
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Thanks for the messages and DMs! I may look into that shortly.
In the meantime, if folks haven't checked my YouTube channel in a little while, they might want to do that. Just sayin'...
In the meantime, if folks haven't checked my YouTube channel in a little while, they might want to do that. Just sayin'...
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It is always a good day when you hear from Fection. I love your work.
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As someone whose entry into the A.S.F.R. world was heavily encouraged by you and your work, this is one of the most disheartening things I could have seen. Your new video popped up on my feed and I saw it was completely AI generated - video AND audio, no less. And while I might simply write stories (not posted here or on FembotWiki as I suspect some of the pro-AI contingent here just feeds everything to AI models), your actual, human-made art was one of my biggest influences in the stories I enjoy telling.
You've done amazing things by hand and to see you go this way hurts, really badly. Thanks for the memories, at least.
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Posts like this is why people will simply stop sharing. There is absolute garbage posted here and in the Wiki that people simply choose to ignore without criticism, because thats what normal decent people do in a community where others are contributing their own time and effort to create content during their own free time, without compensation. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Fection is a damn legend in this genre and community, and you shit on the dude with your Karen rant for no reason. WTF is WRONG with people anymore...Lithorien wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 8:35 pmAs someone whose entry into the A.S.F.R. world was heavily encouraged by you and your work, this is one of the most disheartening things I could have seen. Your new video popped up on my feed and I saw it was completely AI generated - video AND audio, no less. And while I might simply write stories (not posted here or on FembotWiki as I suspect some of the pro-AI contingent here just feeds everything to AI models), your actual, human-made art was one of my biggest influences in the stories I enjoy telling.
You've done amazing things by hand and to see you go this way hurts, really badly. Thanks for the memories, at least.
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No need to start mud slinging, on either side of this age old debate. There's nothing wrong with asking for links in private as long as those links aren't posted to the public forums.
Just keep it civil folks.
Just keep it civil folks.
Want a story commission? Send me a DM, a PM, an Owl, a Discord, Smoke signal, parchment wrapped to an arrow, or just a good old fashioned email.
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You're entirely wrong.AmosBurton7 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 9:48 pmPosts like this is why people will simply stop sharing. There is absolute garbage posted here and in the Wiki that people simply choose to ignore without criticism, because thats what normal decent people do in a community where others are contributing their own time and effort to create content during their own free time, without compensation. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Fection is a damn legend in this genre and community, and you shit on the dude with your Karen rant for no reason. WTF is WRONG with people anymore...Lithorien wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 8:35 pmAs someone whose entry into the A.S.F.R. world was heavily encouraged by you and your work, this is one of the most disheartening things I could have seen. Your new video popped up on my feed and I saw it was completely AI generated - video AND audio, no less. And while I might simply write stories (not posted here or on FembotWiki as I suspect some of the pro-AI contingent here just feeds everything to AI models), your actual, human-made art was one of my biggest influences in the stories I enjoy telling.
You've done amazing things by hand and to see you go this way hurts, really badly. Thanks for the memories, at least.
I'm not "shitting on" Fection, but your pro-AI stance has blinded you to that. Fection may be my biggest inspiration for writing generally, but definitely is in the A.S.F.R. space. What he has been able to do, 100% human made, has been an inspiration to many people - self included. Expressing disappointment that he has chosen to use something that detracts from him, his skills, and his impact isn't "shitting on" him; it's a post of encouragement that all of us know that he is better than that and that what he creates with his authentic, real skills and talents is amazing. There are few in this space who could do what he does; none of us want to see him lose that spark because of the well-documented effects of AI on people's skills.
Don't take someone's hatred for AI as hatred for its users.
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Posts like this is why people will simply stop sharing. There is absolute garbage posted here and in the Wiki that people simply choose to ignore without criticism, because thats what normal decent people do in a community where others are contributing their own time and effort to create content during their own free time, without compensation. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Fection is a damn legend in this genre and community, and you shit on the dude with your Karen rant for no reason. WTF is WRONG with people anymore.Lithorien wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 3:48 pm You're entirely wrong.
I'm not "shitting on" Fection, but your pro-AI stance has blinded you to that. Fection may be my biggest inspiration for writing generally, but definitely is in the A.S.F.R. space. What he has been able to do, 100% human made, has been an inspiration to many people - self included. Expressing disappointment that he has chosen to use something that detracts from him, his skills, and his impact isn't "shitting on" him; it's a post of encouragement that all of us know that he is better than that and that what he creates with his authentic, real skills and talents is amazing. There are few in this space who could do what he does; none of us want to see him lose that spark because of the well-documented effects of AI on people's skills.
Don't take someone's hatred for AI as hatred for its users.
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AI can provide starter working material. But really, what distinguishes good AI work from randomly posted, poorly curated AI slop remains the same thing as always: human creativity, skills in art and writing, and a human hand that accepts responsibility for every major creative decision that changes or shifts the direction of a product.
I am not above favoriting good AI generated work. My main issue with it atm is how we've gone into it headass backwards. Remember, our 3d and video renders started out on our local PCs or on locally hosted servers before the farms became a requirement at the heavy end. AI Bros are making a terrible mistake by starting at the farm rather than heavily optimizing down to first fit on local PCs (China excepted - they aren't that enamoured with heavy iron for virtually anything due to cultural traditions)
I am not above favoriting good AI generated work. My main issue with it atm is how we've gone into it headass backwards. Remember, our 3d and video renders started out on our local PCs or on locally hosted servers before the farms became a requirement at the heavy end. AI Bros are making a terrible mistake by starting at the farm rather than heavily optimizing down to first fit on local PCs (China excepted - they aren't that enamoured with heavy iron for virtually anything due to cultural traditions)
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Thank you for the kind words, appreciate it. Thats a pretty old video tbh, and to me it looks a lot rougher than my recent productions - far more "static" than what I'm making now - but I'm glad you liked it. It was fun to write and put together, but as you can imagine a 1 hour video is tough to keep perfect continuity through. I still have no idea how I managed to make a 2 hour video lol. I put newer stuff into chapters around 20 minutes long tops now.tdlsn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:43 pm To AmosBurton7 I'd like to say publicly here that I fully enjoyed and appreciate your content. I only hope that you have more in store of what I consider an evolutionary step in ASFR content. Your "Expired Warranty" animation is an instant favorite in every way, (sleeper, story, situation, all and only fembots, etc) and I must say I haven't enjoyed anything ASFR in a very long time if you know what I mean. Thank you.
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I echo Natalie: Can we keep it civil? It's too easy to respond in kind (if only because I don't want this thread shut down!).
There's a lot of quite 'weighted' assumptions that people are making. I've added some comments on YouTube that explain my rationale but I will risk repeating them here.
I have ALWAYS wanted to be able to make film-production grade videos. I'm sorry to say that it doesn't matter if people think the animations I make are great (although I DO appreciate the compliments and encouragement!); I will always see something in the visual execution that is lacking. To be able to FINALLY make something that visually matches the fembot-content TV shows that I used to happen upon is too much of an opportunity to pass up.
Another thing I've noticed is something I find difficult to describe because I'm not sure I understand it; It could be summarised in phrases like 'AI is art without passion' or 'art should be created with authentic real skills'. I don't relate to this. AI is a tool to generate footage. The 'vision' (if that is a thing) involves determination against the weight of what the AI 'thinks' you want; I intend to maintain a cohesive well-thought-out story for the entire video. It's just the means of production of the footage that has changed.
Another issue is more binary; the ethics of using AI - info trawling, data centres displacing folks, energy/water use. In this regard I have, unfortunately perhaps, chosen to set those concerns aside to enable me to conduct an experiment. The experiment is; Could AI be used to create something well-thought-out, with my usual aim of including irony in the fembot's malfunction? My intention is to make as 'perfected' a film as I've ever been able to make. This moral ambivalence speaks to how deeply I have always wanted to be able to produce film-grade videos; I apologise if that's hard for people.
If people need to know 'craft' is involved, rest assured there is still a hell of a lot of work required to force these clips into a cohesive story. I'm not trained as an editor, but I'm beginning to appreciate how shots need to flow into one another; a few frames included or excluded can make one motion appear to carry from one shot into the next. There is still all of the sound design to do.
Which brings me to the song! Again, this is about ease of production. I have been able to make a radio-quality (that's not an endorsement!) pop song with Suno. When I do finally release the music video I hope people will find the lyrics clever and amusing; AI generation does not preclude human spark. It DOES have a LOT of gravity toward mediocre, which is where determination comes in. And again, I did not just use it straight out of Suno; I have edited multiple takes together in a DAW to produce something that serves the needs of the story.
I also get the impression people have not picked up that the YouTube video I posted is outtakes; The clips are the absolute worst, weirdest takes that Sora generated from prompts genuinely intended to produce usable shots. I thought they were laughable and actually made a great mockery of Sora's blinkered 'this-is-what-you-want' approach. It could be that most people have seen more of this kind of AI slop than I have and these weird 'brain farts' are not as amusing to most people as they still are to me (I still get a chuckle when the gospel singer turns up...)
There's a lot of quite 'weighted' assumptions that people are making. I've added some comments on YouTube that explain my rationale but I will risk repeating them here.
I have ALWAYS wanted to be able to make film-production grade videos. I'm sorry to say that it doesn't matter if people think the animations I make are great (although I DO appreciate the compliments and encouragement!); I will always see something in the visual execution that is lacking. To be able to FINALLY make something that visually matches the fembot-content TV shows that I used to happen upon is too much of an opportunity to pass up.
Another thing I've noticed is something I find difficult to describe because I'm not sure I understand it; It could be summarised in phrases like 'AI is art without passion' or 'art should be created with authentic real skills'. I don't relate to this. AI is a tool to generate footage. The 'vision' (if that is a thing) involves determination against the weight of what the AI 'thinks' you want; I intend to maintain a cohesive well-thought-out story for the entire video. It's just the means of production of the footage that has changed.
Another issue is more binary; the ethics of using AI - info trawling, data centres displacing folks, energy/water use. In this regard I have, unfortunately perhaps, chosen to set those concerns aside to enable me to conduct an experiment. The experiment is; Could AI be used to create something well-thought-out, with my usual aim of including irony in the fembot's malfunction? My intention is to make as 'perfected' a film as I've ever been able to make. This moral ambivalence speaks to how deeply I have always wanted to be able to produce film-grade videos; I apologise if that's hard for people.
If people need to know 'craft' is involved, rest assured there is still a hell of a lot of work required to force these clips into a cohesive story. I'm not trained as an editor, but I'm beginning to appreciate how shots need to flow into one another; a few frames included or excluded can make one motion appear to carry from one shot into the next. There is still all of the sound design to do.
Which brings me to the song! Again, this is about ease of production. I have been able to make a radio-quality (that's not an endorsement!) pop song with Suno. When I do finally release the music video I hope people will find the lyrics clever and amusing; AI generation does not preclude human spark. It DOES have a LOT of gravity toward mediocre, which is where determination comes in. And again, I did not just use it straight out of Suno; I have edited multiple takes together in a DAW to produce something that serves the needs of the story.
I also get the impression people have not picked up that the YouTube video I posted is outtakes; The clips are the absolute worst, weirdest takes that Sora generated from prompts genuinely intended to produce usable shots. I thought they were laughable and actually made a great mockery of Sora's blinkered 'this-is-what-you-want' approach. It could be that most people have seen more of this kind of AI slop than I have and these weird 'brain farts' are not as amusing to most people as they still are to me (I still get a chuckle when the gospel singer turns up...)
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Oh no! Uncom doesn't like AI! Alert the media! Its OVER! LOL
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Keep up the good work, Fection! Don't let the "purists," who don't like their artificial artificial women created artificially deter you.
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Don't really like to reply to... well, I'm not sure what.
But Uncom that's not really relevant, is it? It's almost like you didn't read what I wrote (that's sarcasm, in case that's useful to know).
But if you have anything coherent to add, feel free. This is the discussion section.
But Uncom that's not really relevant, is it? It's almost like you didn't read what I wrote (that's sarcasm, in case that's useful to know).
But if you have anything coherent to add, feel free. This is the discussion section.
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So.............it's been years since I've actually posted something on here but.......guess this will be the reason for it.
I'm also not going to debate or drag on to any arguments or attempts to 'one up' anyones' opinions. I wanna say my piece, and then leave.
Speaking of 'saying alot' much has already been said regarding the debates of AI in the creative landscape, specifically those of the terms 'generative' & 'Large Language Models', systems of code designed to reach swift & efficient systems to generate imagery, sounds & text fully synthesized by an algorithm utilizing large databases of pre-existing content largely by non-consensual means. That's the shorthand of it, yes: It's a program, that makes stuff, using content, that is stolen.
And all for every manner of purpose with one goal in mind standing greater than most: To produce as much 'content' as possible, and more, with as little human effort as humanly possible. If any at all.
Minus of course............all the effort it took to create every bit of material it's stealing from.
Those are the broad strokes of course. They don't really deter people much because to some people, "inputting the correct sequence of prompts and reloading them over and over until things are just right is ALOT of work!" and.......to anyone who's ever written a rough draft or typed up a little notepad file of your ideas does know that struggle.
Only thing is that that's A part, most times The Earliest part.......of the creative process. If you think just typing up the most basic germinations of an idea, the broadest strokes of a unique thought, is "the Harderst aspect of the creative sequence"..........alot of times......you'd be right!
But it's everything that comes after, the rest of the labor, that matters more because that's when those things once considered mere jottings on a little text document get shaped into something more. Something.......actualized, with genuine meaning in its' executed state because of just how far it's come from that laborious.....first step that had to be taken so long ago. The pride that comes with such accomplishment.....is both a relief that it's done, and the gratitude of just how far you've come.
Well the argument made to all that by AI advocates is....."Well I just need to type in the things, roll the dice a few times and POOF! It's done. Pride & gratitude I can have now. Oh an 'relief' too I guess, but not for long because I gotta churn out the hundred other ideas cued up." And yeah that's another part of it I guess........generative AI & LLMs can definitely generate 'more content' in far quicker the time than most creative works by people or a person can accomplish. That's what happens when you have a machine do anything semblance to 'all of the work'. There's no need for discovery or innovation or problem-solving when the algorithms can find the most optimal route to accomplishing its' task as swiftly as it's designed to and then take it. And then do it all over again at the press of a button.
I could go onto more cynical routes with this, like how alot of these tech companies have been vying for 'AI' like it's a hot buzzword that must be embraced as an inevitability or else they will lose the times, spending millions to billions of dollars on AI implements that time & time again have lost most of its' money and met with consumer backlash time & time again, or hell I can take it down a darker path about how alot of AI companies have leaned closely with right-wing & fascist ideologues because of the potential use in civilian profiling & pro-activism monitoring capabilities of companies like Palantir (you know.....the fucking crystal ball from Lord of the Rings used & controlled by the actual epitome of evil that even when Not in its' hands still has sway over what its' enemies can see??)
But I don't even want to go towards that route because......that's all stuff for another place.....another time just.........that's not what's eating me here.
Really I just kind of want to lay down something that's been bothering me for a long time that LLMs, generative AI & that promise of a tech-run future have offered a solution of.
And I feel that you & your works, Fection, this recent video you are planning on putting out, the 'outtakes' video you already have put out, and the call for feedback you've made here, has invoked that feeling in me to a point I hope will make sense and not feel like an irrelevant ramble like the one above.
So firstly just to kind of remind folk who the fuck I am, I am....Muzzleruffels. I've been a part of the community for over 12 years now, I wrote some shit stories about robot monster girls that went nowhere. I am mostly a content contributor over on the FembotWiki. If you're on the FembotLabs Discord server you'll know me better there.
Even before my time here.....in my youth......that I still have yet is now fleeting........I came across works that would help form my various tastes in all things ASFR,
including your publicly released animations over on Youtube, the like of Candybot, A Thoughtless Vendetta and The Prototypists being key inspirations to one facet of what I like about sexy, robotic women. In short: You were an inspiration...for a young Muzz.
And not just me but alot of people on & outside of this site, now and in the early modern net days, have called you & your work, very influential to them.
While I know you've been around for far longer, Candybot 007 - Worst Spy Ever, is over twenty years old, and from the videos on your channel, the art, photo manips, flash files & even stories, that is quite an impactful legacy you've left for us group of robo-loving weirdos. Self-deprecation aside....that is still work to be proud of.
Which......makes it all the more sad when you look back at all that you've made so far, find that all that is not enough, and the conclusion you've come to, is to experiment alittle out of you & everyones' comfort zone. Something that seemed odd, out of form, new to you, and a deterrent to some. But...you wanted to try anyway.
So you released Candy on the Rocks as your first foray into 3D animation two & a half years ago!
I know some have a bias towards that one, but personally I do like it! Especially with Sweet Delilah's voice work, for something short she did a great job, as well as your wife as 'Helen'.
And yeah it may've been awkward & quite alot to tackle, moving from 2d flash animation to cgi and may not have been much of an end-product compared to your other works, but as a 'first foray' into a new medium for you, it definitely held alot of promise.
I give all this praise to you because......it cannot be overstated how much of an impact you & your work, has had on people.
Your gradual refinement of your craft over time, your willingness to breach your comforts to try something new, sticking to tropes & aesthetics because they're a vital part of the foundation & identity you've built yourself on, these are the hallmarks of an 'artist' in its' simplest, yet purist spirit.
Which......makes it all the more sad when you look back at all that you've made so far, find that all that is not enough, and the conclusion you've come to..............
Is to say "Making art as an artist for art........is Not Good Enough. I want to make content, as a content creator, for content."
Now.....that may not be your intention at all and I have hope that's the case; like the 3D venture this is just you testing out the waters with the latest tech put on off and at the moment, that is indeed these new platforms. But make no mistake that is the final intention behind every LLM & generative AI possible:
Make more content......for the sake of more content.
Not only is it the sheer speed by which these platforms generate stuff (and not to mention the energy & environmental costs, another topic I wanted to bypass in this discussion), but also with how by rapidly-continual their development is, everything they've generated has been riddled with flaws and imperfections and errors of the most......mistaken.
I don't need to tell you or anyone this, you've seen this yourself, rolling the cue and seeing the animation of a scene go in a way it shouldn't; you had so many outtakes......because there was no person on the other end with sensible mind to look at what you were saying and not....invoke things worse than your worst nightmares.
And I will say at the beginning of all this, like the early days when development was slower so the bugs were more frequent, that there was humor to be found with just how awful everything looked & not on purpose, so it made sense that everyone would share the mistakes for a good laugh. The twelfth fingers, the potato mash faces, the bad lighting & anatomical deformities, all of these common errors that person can avoid, because a person has enough sense to not push out every singular thing when there's a mistake.
That is........unless a person feels compelled to push out every singular thing when there's a mistake......because that's just more content to put out.
A common trend I've seen in accounts that put out AI material is......just how much material they put out at once, even "better looking" generations are paired up, sandwiched and even cram-packed with tons of poorer ones, instances riddled with very clear flaws & errors in the algorithm that should not have been posted publicly in the first place, or even then repetitions of the same pose or scene over & over & over when a person would have 'picked the one' and stick with their choice.
But again....the mentality of alot of the people running these sort of accounts is to 'share & produce as much of more as possible', so the easiest thing to do is to put Everything out there, which means that even the Best of the Worst cannot escape association with its' lesser counterparts.
I tell you this in alot of detail and not just everyone reading but you, Fection, specifically, because I do have a very specific....albeit mean....example for you.
A few months back I found a Twitter account that often bumped content associated with bot-stuff; it was anime-centric so it was up my wheelhouse. It didn't take long to find gen-AI content that they themselves posted, and as stated above they'd either be uploaded in large to their Twitter account or their Pixiv. Stuff like....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HCz_JFAaEAA ... name=large
That's right. This is an example of someone who has taken your work and repurposed it for the sake of generating more content of a thing that they may like, but again, the end goal of all of this....is more content.
Their twitter account also has bulk offerings of your Prototypist secretaries in mega.z pdfs, files that range from 59-84 images, many of them as error-ridden & repetitive as I've mentioned time & time again.
Their Pixiv used to have those Lauretta & Dolores (yes I remember their names) posts, but then it got deleted & was set up again without them, but their new account has plentiful of other gen-AI content, including a very vaguely familiar maid with about 57 repetitive, error riddled images in her not-name.
https://i.pximg.net/img-original/img/20 ... 930_p0.png
There's no care for quality, no actual effort to make something even out of genuine appreciation for someone elses' work, and no doubt done with who knows how many instances of one or many persons' actual work (including your own) to facilitate an artistic likeness in the final product. Minus of course, any actual say from an actual artist.
This is just one instance of this sort of thing I've come across in the years since this shit's been dragged along, so many accounts dedicated to just posting image after image, bad videos or just anything that's put up even if it's a bad generation because......any generation's good enough. So many Patreons (another instance of the dangers with Gen-AI I avoided in this conversation, whose sole purpose is to sell bulk porn of various cartoon characters.......For Money, often stolen from another artists' style, because.......why not make profit off all of the generated porn you've been rolling out for yourself.
And namely, both in ties with the addictions those Patreons prey upon, with the way in which we've been pushed to intake as much media as possible at all times, having life itself being ground & molded & commodified to an endless pursuit for more! More! with only the merest flickers of gratification before it's snuffed out for the next supplement.
That......is the bottomline result of a person whose sole source of consumption is a machine that does nothing but produce content for the sake of producing content:
They want more content, the same content, over and over and over, where it doesn't matter whether there's a flaw or a similarity, it's all the same. And it will never be enough.
So like.......Yes this has been a whole rant about AI content as per the norm of them around here, but I think it's really dire when you Fection, YOU, specifically, have questions in approval for you in wanting to try out the new toy folks like me cry doomsday for cause.......to not be mean but to state a fact......
When the person whose entire creative output for over 20 years boils down to many repetitions of "What if fake plastic woman broke.....because they ar't fake", is tempted to try out the endless slop apparatus machine to generate endless fake robo-women with hourglass features & a sheer lack for waterproof circuitry,
will they be horrified to learn just how finite their creative depth truly is that a machine can poorly yet satisfactorily recreate an approximation of everything they ever wanted,
or realize too late just how empty it all truly is when you're not the one who gets to choose how any of that stuff is made anymore?
Like..........the actual fear here is that................we really don't feel like we have alot of choices for things in the real world, now do we?
We........don't get to choose who our families are, we don't always get to choose who we'll be with for a little or awhile, we don't always choose our jobs, our homes, or really what matters of crisis we get to live through & what matter of consequences come from anything down the line, so it makes everything we choose.......all the more important.
People.........choose to be artists.
They get to choose their influences, their skills, how they develop through the mediums around them into a pathos that they call their 'own'.
And.......to kind of really stick how much this matters, two things to consider:
To lay myself bare: Yes, I don't exactly qualify myself as an artist at the moment. haven't actually made something myself in a very long time, and nowadays I largely just spend a few times posting stuff on the Wiki that I myself didn't make; even the last thing I actually made, a 3d animation made in MMD, utilized alot of models, sounds & effects that I myself did not make, and even with their permission, all based on someone elses' work.
However, I did choose how I could animate the thing. And away from that I do get to choose what I post & how much I post. I choose to catalog my finds, make sure that they can be traced back to their sources, to the original authors & artists who actually made them. I choose to find rare & obscure content that hasn't been as well-recognized by the community or online in general, and I choose to always consider that the amount & way I post the content I share, does not deter recognition for others who want to share content that they actually made.
I see the good of those choices whenever I see someone talk about or even commission art of some obscure character that may've never been recognized; I haven't made anything in a long time, but I feel like what little I choose to do......does matter.
And the other thing to consider is this with yourself, Fection, because you too know how much that simple matter of choice is, because you choose every singular aspect of your creative processes throughout your years of work.
You choose the way you animated your characters' stiff movements, you choose their figure, their complexion, you choose to have Sweet Delilah voice in one thing, and who Helen's voiced by, and you yourself in a few of your own stuff. You choose to have the At Thoughtless Vendetta in one specific, semi-realistic fashion, while a more deliberate cartoon stylization for The Prototypists.
Everything you have made at this point, you have had the most amount of 'choice' in on virtue that you yourself made everything.
Look at all those outtakes you had. You didn't choose to have those mistakes be rendered. Nothing you chose to wrote into the machine was genuinely considered, because the machine knows you but doesn't know you like a person can, like we do, or even yourself. And when you realize that, overtime you just stop choosing, because it doesn't matter even when you do make choices. The machine......does not choose. It was never made to.
The most impact your choices have had in this entire conundrum with you using AI, is how even as another curiosity, you still chose to test it out publicly for everyones' approval.
The backlash from alot of the people who have considered what your work has meant to them over the years, the sadness & disappointment they've felt that you seem unwilling to detract, to consider what your works meant to not just them, but you yourself, and how they will have to move on from here if things continue on,
and the blind praise of those who cheer this choice on uncritically, who would rather deny every legitimate concern for any of the stuff I or anyone a hundred thousand million times more qualified can summarize, because to those people, it doesn't matter if a computer made Fections' content for them to eat; to them, that just means more content to eat with a 'Fection' label attached, the guy could be gone for all they care.
I.........really do hope that this is just another moment of curiosity, something that you abandon quickly & learn better from without it. And I really do hope that there is some gratification you find in your old works, in all the stuff that you've made like actually made and can recognize the influence you still have over so many years.
Because this..............'content machine'.....is not how an artist will live on,
this is how an artist dies, and a human being regresses to something less than an animal. Just a thing that eats, without end, without satisfaction, without appreciation for the wonder that can be found in the act of creation, eating......eating..........until it gets hollower than Candy's hot tits.
I'm also not going to debate or drag on to any arguments or attempts to 'one up' anyones' opinions. I wanna say my piece, and then leave.
Speaking of 'saying alot' much has already been said regarding the debates of AI in the creative landscape, specifically those of the terms 'generative' & 'Large Language Models', systems of code designed to reach swift & efficient systems to generate imagery, sounds & text fully synthesized by an algorithm utilizing large databases of pre-existing content largely by non-consensual means. That's the shorthand of it, yes: It's a program, that makes stuff, using content, that is stolen.
And all for every manner of purpose with one goal in mind standing greater than most: To produce as much 'content' as possible, and more, with as little human effort as humanly possible. If any at all.
Minus of course............all the effort it took to create every bit of material it's stealing from.
Those are the broad strokes of course. They don't really deter people much because to some people, "inputting the correct sequence of prompts and reloading them over and over until things are just right is ALOT of work!" and.......to anyone who's ever written a rough draft or typed up a little notepad file of your ideas does know that struggle.
Only thing is that that's A part, most times The Earliest part.......of the creative process. If you think just typing up the most basic germinations of an idea, the broadest strokes of a unique thought, is "the Harderst aspect of the creative sequence"..........alot of times......you'd be right!
But it's everything that comes after, the rest of the labor, that matters more because that's when those things once considered mere jottings on a little text document get shaped into something more. Something.......actualized, with genuine meaning in its' executed state because of just how far it's come from that laborious.....first step that had to be taken so long ago. The pride that comes with such accomplishment.....is both a relief that it's done, and the gratitude of just how far you've come.
Well the argument made to all that by AI advocates is....."Well I just need to type in the things, roll the dice a few times and POOF! It's done. Pride & gratitude I can have now. Oh an 'relief' too I guess, but not for long because I gotta churn out the hundred other ideas cued up." And yeah that's another part of it I guess........generative AI & LLMs can definitely generate 'more content' in far quicker the time than most creative works by people or a person can accomplish. That's what happens when you have a machine do anything semblance to 'all of the work'. There's no need for discovery or innovation or problem-solving when the algorithms can find the most optimal route to accomplishing its' task as swiftly as it's designed to and then take it. And then do it all over again at the press of a button.
I could go onto more cynical routes with this, like how alot of these tech companies have been vying for 'AI' like it's a hot buzzword that must be embraced as an inevitability or else they will lose the times, spending millions to billions of dollars on AI implements that time & time again have lost most of its' money and met with consumer backlash time & time again, or hell I can take it down a darker path about how alot of AI companies have leaned closely with right-wing & fascist ideologues because of the potential use in civilian profiling & pro-activism monitoring capabilities of companies like Palantir (you know.....the fucking crystal ball from Lord of the Rings used & controlled by the actual epitome of evil that even when Not in its' hands still has sway over what its' enemies can see??)
But I don't even want to go towards that route because......that's all stuff for another place.....another time just.........that's not what's eating me here.
Really I just kind of want to lay down something that's been bothering me for a long time that LLMs, generative AI & that promise of a tech-run future have offered a solution of.
And I feel that you & your works, Fection, this recent video you are planning on putting out, the 'outtakes' video you already have put out, and the call for feedback you've made here, has invoked that feeling in me to a point I hope will make sense and not feel like an irrelevant ramble like the one above.
So firstly just to kind of remind folk who the fuck I am, I am....Muzzleruffels. I've been a part of the community for over 12 years now, I wrote some shit stories about robot monster girls that went nowhere. I am mostly a content contributor over on the FembotWiki. If you're on the FembotLabs Discord server you'll know me better there.
Even before my time here.....in my youth......that I still have yet is now fleeting........I came across works that would help form my various tastes in all things ASFR,
including your publicly released animations over on Youtube, the like of Candybot, A Thoughtless Vendetta and The Prototypists being key inspirations to one facet of what I like about sexy, robotic women. In short: You were an inspiration...for a young Muzz.
And not just me but alot of people on & outside of this site, now and in the early modern net days, have called you & your work, very influential to them.
While I know you've been around for far longer, Candybot 007 - Worst Spy Ever, is over twenty years old, and from the videos on your channel, the art, photo manips, flash files & even stories, that is quite an impactful legacy you've left for us group of robo-loving weirdos. Self-deprecation aside....that is still work to be proud of.
Which......makes it all the more sad when you look back at all that you've made so far, find that all that is not enough, and the conclusion you've come to, is to experiment alittle out of you & everyones' comfort zone. Something that seemed odd, out of form, new to you, and a deterrent to some. But...you wanted to try anyway.
So you released Candy on the Rocks as your first foray into 3D animation two & a half years ago!
I know some have a bias towards that one, but personally I do like it! Especially with Sweet Delilah's voice work, for something short she did a great job, as well as your wife as 'Helen'.
And yeah it may've been awkward & quite alot to tackle, moving from 2d flash animation to cgi and may not have been much of an end-product compared to your other works, but as a 'first foray' into a new medium for you, it definitely held alot of promise.
I give all this praise to you because......it cannot be overstated how much of an impact you & your work, has had on people.
Your gradual refinement of your craft over time, your willingness to breach your comforts to try something new, sticking to tropes & aesthetics because they're a vital part of the foundation & identity you've built yourself on, these are the hallmarks of an 'artist' in its' simplest, yet purist spirit.
Which......makes it all the more sad when you look back at all that you've made so far, find that all that is not enough, and the conclusion you've come to..............
Is to say "Making art as an artist for art........is Not Good Enough. I want to make content, as a content creator, for content."
Now.....that may not be your intention at all and I have hope that's the case; like the 3D venture this is just you testing out the waters with the latest tech put on off and at the moment, that is indeed these new platforms. But make no mistake that is the final intention behind every LLM & generative AI possible:
Make more content......for the sake of more content.
Not only is it the sheer speed by which these platforms generate stuff (and not to mention the energy & environmental costs, another topic I wanted to bypass in this discussion), but also with how by rapidly-continual their development is, everything they've generated has been riddled with flaws and imperfections and errors of the most......mistaken.
I don't need to tell you or anyone this, you've seen this yourself, rolling the cue and seeing the animation of a scene go in a way it shouldn't; you had so many outtakes......because there was no person on the other end with sensible mind to look at what you were saying and not....invoke things worse than your worst nightmares.
And I will say at the beginning of all this, like the early days when development was slower so the bugs were more frequent, that there was humor to be found with just how awful everything looked & not on purpose, so it made sense that everyone would share the mistakes for a good laugh. The twelfth fingers, the potato mash faces, the bad lighting & anatomical deformities, all of these common errors that person can avoid, because a person has enough sense to not push out every singular thing when there's a mistake.
That is........unless a person feels compelled to push out every singular thing when there's a mistake......because that's just more content to put out.
A common trend I've seen in accounts that put out AI material is......just how much material they put out at once, even "better looking" generations are paired up, sandwiched and even cram-packed with tons of poorer ones, instances riddled with very clear flaws & errors in the algorithm that should not have been posted publicly in the first place, or even then repetitions of the same pose or scene over & over & over when a person would have 'picked the one' and stick with their choice.
But again....the mentality of alot of the people running these sort of accounts is to 'share & produce as much of more as possible', so the easiest thing to do is to put Everything out there, which means that even the Best of the Worst cannot escape association with its' lesser counterparts.
I tell you this in alot of detail and not just everyone reading but you, Fection, specifically, because I do have a very specific....albeit mean....example for you.
A few months back I found a Twitter account that often bumped content associated with bot-stuff; it was anime-centric so it was up my wheelhouse. It didn't take long to find gen-AI content that they themselves posted, and as stated above they'd either be uploaded in large to their Twitter account or their Pixiv. Stuff like....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HCz_JFAaEAA ... name=large
That's right. This is an example of someone who has taken your work and repurposed it for the sake of generating more content of a thing that they may like, but again, the end goal of all of this....is more content.
Their twitter account also has bulk offerings of your Prototypist secretaries in mega.z pdfs, files that range from 59-84 images, many of them as error-ridden & repetitive as I've mentioned time & time again.
Their Pixiv used to have those Lauretta & Dolores (yes I remember their names) posts, but then it got deleted & was set up again without them, but their new account has plentiful of other gen-AI content, including a very vaguely familiar maid with about 57 repetitive, error riddled images in her not-name.
https://i.pximg.net/img-original/img/20 ... 930_p0.png
There's no care for quality, no actual effort to make something even out of genuine appreciation for someone elses' work, and no doubt done with who knows how many instances of one or many persons' actual work (including your own) to facilitate an artistic likeness in the final product. Minus of course, any actual say from an actual artist.
This is just one instance of this sort of thing I've come across in the years since this shit's been dragged along, so many accounts dedicated to just posting image after image, bad videos or just anything that's put up even if it's a bad generation because......any generation's good enough. So many Patreons (another instance of the dangers with Gen-AI I avoided in this conversation, whose sole purpose is to sell bulk porn of various cartoon characters.......For Money, often stolen from another artists' style, because.......why not make profit off all of the generated porn you've been rolling out for yourself.
And namely, both in ties with the addictions those Patreons prey upon, with the way in which we've been pushed to intake as much media as possible at all times, having life itself being ground & molded & commodified to an endless pursuit for more! More! with only the merest flickers of gratification before it's snuffed out for the next supplement.
That......is the bottomline result of a person whose sole source of consumption is a machine that does nothing but produce content for the sake of producing content:
They want more content, the same content, over and over and over, where it doesn't matter whether there's a flaw or a similarity, it's all the same. And it will never be enough.
So like.......Yes this has been a whole rant about AI content as per the norm of them around here, but I think it's really dire when you Fection, YOU, specifically, have questions in approval for you in wanting to try out the new toy folks like me cry doomsday for cause.......to not be mean but to state a fact......
When the person whose entire creative output for over 20 years boils down to many repetitions of "What if fake plastic woman broke.....because they ar't fake", is tempted to try out the endless slop apparatus machine to generate endless fake robo-women with hourglass features & a sheer lack for waterproof circuitry,
will they be horrified to learn just how finite their creative depth truly is that a machine can poorly yet satisfactorily recreate an approximation of everything they ever wanted,
or realize too late just how empty it all truly is when you're not the one who gets to choose how any of that stuff is made anymore?
Like..........the actual fear here is that................we really don't feel like we have alot of choices for things in the real world, now do we?
We........don't get to choose who our families are, we don't always get to choose who we'll be with for a little or awhile, we don't always choose our jobs, our homes, or really what matters of crisis we get to live through & what matter of consequences come from anything down the line, so it makes everything we choose.......all the more important.
People.........choose to be artists.
They get to choose their influences, their skills, how they develop through the mediums around them into a pathos that they call their 'own'.
And.......to kind of really stick how much this matters, two things to consider:
To lay myself bare: Yes, I don't exactly qualify myself as an artist at the moment. haven't actually made something myself in a very long time, and nowadays I largely just spend a few times posting stuff on the Wiki that I myself didn't make; even the last thing I actually made, a 3d animation made in MMD, utilized alot of models, sounds & effects that I myself did not make, and even with their permission, all based on someone elses' work.
However, I did choose how I could animate the thing. And away from that I do get to choose what I post & how much I post. I choose to catalog my finds, make sure that they can be traced back to their sources, to the original authors & artists who actually made them. I choose to find rare & obscure content that hasn't been as well-recognized by the community or online in general, and I choose to always consider that the amount & way I post the content I share, does not deter recognition for others who want to share content that they actually made.
I see the good of those choices whenever I see someone talk about or even commission art of some obscure character that may've never been recognized; I haven't made anything in a long time, but I feel like what little I choose to do......does matter.
And the other thing to consider is this with yourself, Fection, because you too know how much that simple matter of choice is, because you choose every singular aspect of your creative processes throughout your years of work.
You choose the way you animated your characters' stiff movements, you choose their figure, their complexion, you choose to have Sweet Delilah voice in one thing, and who Helen's voiced by, and you yourself in a few of your own stuff. You choose to have the At Thoughtless Vendetta in one specific, semi-realistic fashion, while a more deliberate cartoon stylization for The Prototypists.
Everything you have made at this point, you have had the most amount of 'choice' in on virtue that you yourself made everything.
Look at all those outtakes you had. You didn't choose to have those mistakes be rendered. Nothing you chose to wrote into the machine was genuinely considered, because the machine knows you but doesn't know you like a person can, like we do, or even yourself. And when you realize that, overtime you just stop choosing, because it doesn't matter even when you do make choices. The machine......does not choose. It was never made to.
The most impact your choices have had in this entire conundrum with you using AI, is how even as another curiosity, you still chose to test it out publicly for everyones' approval.
The backlash from alot of the people who have considered what your work has meant to them over the years, the sadness & disappointment they've felt that you seem unwilling to detract, to consider what your works meant to not just them, but you yourself, and how they will have to move on from here if things continue on,
and the blind praise of those who cheer this choice on uncritically, who would rather deny every legitimate concern for any of the stuff I or anyone a hundred thousand million times more qualified can summarize, because to those people, it doesn't matter if a computer made Fections' content for them to eat; to them, that just means more content to eat with a 'Fection' label attached, the guy could be gone for all they care.
I.........really do hope that this is just another moment of curiosity, something that you abandon quickly & learn better from without it. And I really do hope that there is some gratification you find in your old works, in all the stuff that you've made like actually made and can recognize the influence you still have over so many years.
Because this..............'content machine'.....is not how an artist will live on,
this is how an artist dies, and a human being regresses to something less than an animal. Just a thing that eats, without end, without satisfaction, without appreciation for the wonder that can be found in the act of creation, eating......eating..........until it gets hollower than Candy's hot tits.
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Hello!
I'm also not interested in one-up-manship or getting into pointless fights - so we agree on that, at least!
I'm going to try to be incredibly brief, because I feel like people might be missing my point(s):
1) However awful it might seem to people (it's hard to read if this is folks' main problem with AI) I have chosen to set aside the concerns I have about AI, in favour of conducting an experiment.
2) The experiment is to see if AI can be used to construct a live-action, high-production, well thought out story with all of the irony, continuity, inevitability and wit (that might be a stretch...) I like to THINK I apply to my animations.
3) I do not intend to lower my standard for how any up-coming AI-generated 'film' turns out. If I'm not happy with how they turn out, I will not post them.
4) I do not intend to use AI like content farms do. I have close to zero interest in making money from my interest in fembots. I don't think its correct to conflate me with 'content for content's sake' creators.
5) I should add, I really do appreciate that by now I've had an influence - and I really do like getting (positive!) comments about my stuff - I'm a bit of a narcissist in that regard. But people talking about being 'disappointed' (unless it's about me setting asided the ethics of using AI...) just sounds to me like people haven't heard the above points.
I actually think that's about it. I'm not changing. I'm having a (potentially brief) look at an alternate means of producing fantastic, useful footage. My animations have always been a 'narrow band' of predictable outcomes (impossibly beautiful fembot is designed with a flaw that means she is not up to the assigned task and is ironically tricked into causing her own malfunction). So that's not going to change. By the way, if any other people want to make safe-for-work-ish stories based on that narrow brief, I would be over the moon!
I'm also not interested in one-up-manship or getting into pointless fights - so we agree on that, at least!
I'm going to try to be incredibly brief, because I feel like people might be missing my point(s):
1) However awful it might seem to people (it's hard to read if this is folks' main problem with AI) I have chosen to set aside the concerns I have about AI, in favour of conducting an experiment.
2) The experiment is to see if AI can be used to construct a live-action, high-production, well thought out story with all of the irony, continuity, inevitability and wit (that might be a stretch...) I like to THINK I apply to my animations.
3) I do not intend to lower my standard for how any up-coming AI-generated 'film' turns out. If I'm not happy with how they turn out, I will not post them.
4) I do not intend to use AI like content farms do. I have close to zero interest in making money from my interest in fembots. I don't think its correct to conflate me with 'content for content's sake' creators.
5) I should add, I really do appreciate that by now I've had an influence - and I really do like getting (positive!) comments about my stuff - I'm a bit of a narcissist in that regard. But people talking about being 'disappointed' (unless it's about me setting asided the ethics of using AI...) just sounds to me like people haven't heard the above points.
I actually think that's about it. I'm not changing. I'm having a (potentially brief) look at an alternate means of producing fantastic, useful footage. My animations have always been a 'narrow band' of predictable outcomes (impossibly beautiful fembot is designed with a flaw that means she is not up to the assigned task and is ironically tricked into causing her own malfunction). So that's not going to change. By the way, if any other people want to make safe-for-work-ish stories based on that narrow brief, I would be over the moon!
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The Perfect Girl Project one was one that I really always wanted to see played out lol
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I know what you mean. I love the transparent sections showing her inner workings.
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