AI content discussion

[ProchazkaJBG]

It was something you posted earlier in the thread you are in right now...

I misread what you wrote, my bad (and can any of those produce video and/or audio?). That still means someone has to spend hours and hours learning the software, and if they manage to grasp it (not even close to everyone does) spend more time putting it together. What about the person that has an idea in their head and simply wants to use tools that allow them to create that idea with much lower effort and time cost (and share them here with the rest of the community)?



Although, as you said, none of this really matters... no point in continuing this conversation

[Uncom]

Lmaooooo ok there, that's why he is getting so butthurt he is searching through my post history and jumped into a conversation that didn't involve him

Touched a nerve there.

Anyways, I didn't search through your post history, I was being hyperbolic because the only posts I've ever seen you share here was you crying about AI art being banned, and lashing out at everyone. Which were at least a few dozen. In fact, the way you've been acting tells me that you're by far the most upset one in this thread.

Again, your entire argument boils down to "if you can't make something with the tools I approve of, you don't deserve it"

You asked for free programs that a normal person can use, and I provided them.

I'm someone who works and has a life

Clearly.

you think I have time to sit and learn to use those programs?

You've got time to start dumb arguments in a fetish forum, I'm sure you've got more than enough time on your hands. Be all you can be, your limitations are only in your head

[ProchazkaJBG]

Lmaooooo ok there, that's why he is getting so butthurt he is searching through my post history and jumped into a conversation that didn't involve him

Touched a nerve there.

[lol not even close]

Anyways, I didn't search through your post history, I was being hyperbolic because the only posts I've ever seen you share here was you crying about AI art being banned, and lashing out at everyone. Which were at least a few dozen. In fact, the way you've been acting tells me that you're by far the most upset one in this thread.

[Oh ok so you just made shit up lol, good one guy you really got me ]

Again, your entire argument boils down to "if you can't make something with the tools I approve of, you don't deserve it"

You asked for free programs that a normal person can use, and I provided them.

[Cool, can they also make realistic audio and video? How much time and effort do you think someone has to put in to try and learn (not that there is any guarantee they will grasp it, as everyone is different)]

I'm someone who works and has a life

Clearly.

you think I have time to sit and learn to use those programs?

You've got time to start dumb arguments in a fetish forum, I'm sure you've got more than enough time on your hands. Be all you can be, your limitations are only in your head

[Bro this is taking me (at most) 60 seconds per reply, lololllll... how long does it take you to come up with a post that you think it remotely compares to learning what is basically graphic design?? ]

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Anyway I am going to end my part of this conversation. Be well

[AmosBurton7]

Long time lurker, very infrequent poster, and find myself on this site less and less lately because , to put it bluntly and simply, the "content" has actually degraded quite a bit from what we used to get years ago. Nowadays, it seems this board is specifically highlighting 2-D "cartoon" style pictures and "animation", and a few people who use the same exact assets over and over again in photomanipulations of pictures from lingerie sites and softcore porn pics. "Oh look, its that same "face-off" effect but on a different picture!" Or another gaudy cartoon set from an amateur comic book artist. Creators like Xeran and Chevy Monza, some of the most talented people in this genre going back 20+ years, have left. It seems that half of what Kube puts up gets deleted immediately. This isn't only about "AI", this is about a small number of creators that are catered to by this site, some who are even allowed to post links and advertise their off-site AI work, while others are either censored or seemingly either run off or chose to leave. It is what it is. This used to be THE PLACE for "Fembot" content. Now we get cartoons and Manbot stuff, and long winded arguments about the ethical sourcing of AI image or video generators instead of what this and the iterations before were about - allowing people a place to enjoy a specific HARMLESS "fetish" or niche interest that is generally frowned on or treated like cancer in general normie society. I'm sure its been mentioned before, but how "ethical" is it to take a photo of some model from an ad site, porn pic, or wherever - plaster some open panels and wires on her with photoshop, and post the picture here for our enjoyment? Because lets be honest, that about 90% of what is on the Wiki Gallery going back the 20+ years from FAC and the Gynoid Gallery to now.

There are some INCREDIBLE artists here, 33, BA, DZiegler (The GOAT imo), Natalie, but far less than there used to be. I can't even imagine how incredible it would be to see some of their creations "brought to life" with some of the stuff that's available now, but apparently just the thought of using some AI video creation thing to augment an original picture makes certain people lose their minds. And worrying about someone spamming the board with "8,000 AI Slop Pictures" is a strange argument because if that was going to be an issue, wouldn;t it already have happened? Anyone can join this board, and any member can post pictures here (I don't know how the Wiki Gallery works), so at any point, couldn't someone just do that now? And they would need to be deleted and the offender banned - by creating a draconian solution to a hypothetical problem, you've just run long time contributors away.

I know no minds will be changed, because we can pretend its about "ethical sourcing" or what "REAL CREATORS" are, but bottom line is that its gatekeeping and it has damaged the site and the community more than Kube or Xerans AI creations ever could have, and that's messed up because having seen a bit of what Xeran and Chevy Monza have been up to, this board and its members are missing out.

[ProchazkaJBG]

Long time lurker, very infrequent poster, and find myself on this site less and less lately because , to put it bluntly and simply, the "content" has actually degraded quite a bit from what we used to get years ago. Nowadays, it seems this board is specifically highlighting 2-D "cartoon" style pictures and "animation", and a few people who use the same exact assets over and over again in photomanipulations of pictures from lingerie sites and softcore porn pics. "Oh look, its that same "face-off" effect but on a different picture!" Or another gaudy cartoon set from an amateur comic book artist. Creators like Xeran and Chevy Monza, some of the most talented people in this genre going back 20+ years, have left. It seems that half of what Kube puts up gets deleted immediately. This isn't only about "AI", this is about a small number of creators that are catered to by this site, some who are even allowed to post links and advertise their off-site AI work, while others are either censored or seemingly either run off or chose to leave. It is what it is. This used to be THE PLACE for "Fembot" content. Now we get cartoons and Manbot stuff, and long winded arguments about the ethical sourcing of AI image or video generators instead of what this and the iterations before were about - allowing people a place to enjoy a specific HARMLESS "fetish" or niche interest that is generally frowned on or treated like cancer in general normie society. I'm sure its been mentioned before, but how "ethical" is it to take a photo of some model from an ad site, porn pic, or wherever - plaster some open panels and wires on her with photoshop, and post the picture here for our enjoyment? Because lets be honest, that about 90% of what is on the Wiki Gallery going back the 20+ years from FAC and the Gynoid Gallery to now.

There are some INCREDIBLE artists here, 33, BA, DZiegler (The GOAT imo), Natalie, but far less than there used to be. I can't even imagine how incredible it would be to see some of their creations "brought to life" with some of the stuff that's available now, but apparently just the thought of using some AI video creation thing to augment an original picture makes certain people lose their minds. And worrying about someone spamming the board with "8,000 AI Slop Pictures" is a strange argument because if that was going to be an issue, wouldn;t it already have happened? Anyone can join this board, and any member can post pictures here (I don't know how the Wiki Gallery works), so at any point, couldn't someone just do that now? And they would need to be deleted and the offender banned - by creating a draconian solution to a hypothetical problem, you've just run long time contributors away.

I know no minds will be changed, because we can pretend its about "ethical sourcing" or what "REAL CREATORS" are, but bottom line is that its gatekeeping and it has damaged the site and the community more than Kube or Xerans AI creations ever could have, and that's messed up because having seen a bit of what Xeran and Chevy Monza have been up to, this board and its members are missing out.

I could not agree more on all points... thank you so much for posting this

[tdlsn]

I could not agree more on all points... thank you so much for posting this

Yes I copied the response because,well the above says it all for me.

[ProchazkaJBG]

After taking a peek in the other parts of the discord server I usually dont venture to... where the mods and a few users are shitting on people here for even bringing this stuff up (being cowards instead of posting their responses and opinions here, where they can be seen and discussed) I think it's seriously time to look into starting an FBC alternative...


One that actually values the whole community and isn't just a few people running the show how they personally want, and attacking those (behind their backs no less) who dare to say anything

[NatalieBayer]

I would encourage you to do so. If you do get a forum set up, let me know and we can advertise it here if you like.

That being said, this thread is quickly heading away from discussion and into unproductive territory. I'm not going to lock it for the time being, but if it stays as a thread about attacking each other's stance on AI, then we'll shut it down.

[NatalieBayer]

welp that sounds not AI discussion related, so lock'o'clock. thanks for playing friends.