Keizo in Depth (by Brueckmann)

[noidguy]

A CHAT WITH KEIZO
Interview by Heinrich Brueckmann

Fembot Central presents the first in a series of interviews with members of the community. Keizo is one of our longest standing members and a regular at the FC bulletin board. Heinrich Brueckmann has graciously volunteered to conduct the interview on behalf of FC.

FC:
Hello? <echos>
Keizo:
Hello
FC:
Starting by taking a break is the only way to go!
Keizo:
Agreed!
FC:
Shall we say...8 minutes?
Keizo:
Sure.
FC:
(by the way, I'm in Florida. One time zone difference, I guess. see you in a bit).
Keizo:
3:19 here. ‘Til then.

FC:
Nice. Now I've got some coffee brewing and a bottle of Jaegermeister at my side. First, there's the preliminary disclaimer to be gotten out of the way: You aren't obligated to answer anything that you're not comfortable with the online community knowing.
Keizo:
It’s cool. I’ve got some tea and aspirin.
FC:
The first thing I'll ask is: "What do you understand the purpose of this interview to be?" Why are you being interviewed? What can the community gain by reading it? (These are things I've been thinking about while I formulated my questions.) And before you answer, I hope to structure the interview thusly:
Keizo:
Hmmm. Should I picture myself on a therapist’s couch or the set of a talk show?
FC:
1. I want to find out about you in "real life" to establish for each reader a way to relate to you, outside of your online persona.
Keizo:
Okay... The purpose of the interview can be two-fold; I've always been very open with my real life.
FC:
2. I want to find out about how you imagine yourself fitting into the online community - when you first found it, etc. How important it is to you; how it meshes with your "real life", what role it has played/continues to play in the way you connect with ASFR, etc.
3. Your hopes for the future, especially as it pertains to ASFR, including how you hope the online ASFR community will develop. (To anyone new to the community, ASFR once stood for a newsgroup: alt.sex.fetish.robots)

I'll be drawing upon some research that I've done on the FC by reading your previous posts, as well as the information that you've already personally supplied me via eMail. So, if you're ready to begin?
Keizo:
Absolutely.
FC:
Unless you want any info about me first?
Keizo:
I've read your posts too. As for a "purpose" I suppose it is in conjunction with my presence in the community as a whole. Aside from the fact that I am fulfilling a promise to someone to BE interviewed, I have always tried to promote the acceptance of gynoids.
FC:
Why don't we start with your online handle, "Keizo," and your Avatar? You have some Japanese background? You've also mentioned that your avatar is a sketch you've done of your own eye?
Keizo:
Yes.
FC:
Artistic training?
Keizo:
I was named after my great-grandfather. I've been drawing since I was three
FC:
And why the eye? Most avatars on the FC involve, understandably, gynoids - usually culled from TV shows and websites.
Keizo:
Well, I had first submitted both eyes, but one of the administrators informed me that it didn't show up too well as an avatar and took the liberty of cropping it, and I liked it!
FC:
If there's some other hidden significance, now's the time! (I like it too!)
Keizo:
It also seemed a bit intense, which is how I can come off sometimes if you ask anyone who has worked with me. I'm my own worst critic. Thank you, by the way!
FC:
A bit intense... Let's talk about your family history. Half Japanese? 2nd generation? What is it? Long family history?
Keizo:
I'm actually only one eighth but I have family in Japan and family that has been more involved in that aspect of my heritage. I used to be a bit more involved myself (but not to the point where I could speak it). I found, though, the same double standards as with other lineage that I have. I wasn't "pure" so I was rejected on that premise and alienated by the other cultures I have ties to because I tried to emulate one over the other. This held true for ALL my respective heritages whenever I leaned more towards one over another. They were just superficial in the end. Now I just say I'm from the Republic of Texas. I have tended to lean a bit more towards Japanese culture, though.
FC:
Hmm. So you're multi-cultural, embracing most parts of your lineage, or feel rejected by most? Is your heritage, to your mind, an important/the most important component or your identity, or have you become disenchanted? (I promise we'll be talkin' gynoid shop in a few!)

[I'm probably more interested in this than anybody else at the FC will be...I've got my own "heritage issues" but they'll have to wait for another interview!]
Keizo:
I don't mind. To my knowledge I'm also part German, Portugese/French, Spanish, Mexican Indian (and rumored to be a small part Lebanese). I've never really gotten into my family history, though. It is hardly important to me anymore. I've become disenchanted for a few reasons. All cultures have good things to offer, but they expect you to embrace the bad things as well. We, of course, have our own perceptions of what these negative things may be, but when one's arguments are dismissed it tends to distance oneself. Now I’m glad that I can’t claim any sort of superiority complex based on my race since I don’t really have one.
FC:
Have you ever visited your relatives in Japan?
Keizo:
No, but they have visited me. But I felt betrayed by all cultures, so I focused on my own individuality and development.
FC:
Someone on the FC once said, when people we're speculating on which celebrities, etc. might be closet technosexuals, that the entire country of Japan probably was.
Keizo:
Triumph said that, I believe. So I tend to lean that way since this is one of my deepest connections with a culture. (*smiles*)
FC:
Good stuff! Okay, cool. Next topic? You're about 30, correct? And work at a university mailroom? …Correction: work "a bit intensely" at a university mailroom?
Keizo:
LOL! You know us postal workers! Yes. I'm 33 and it's a major campus. Plenty of fantasy material walking around there!
FC:
So what kind of education do you have? We've got Race/Ethnicity, and Gender. This is a question about Class. Demographic categories. Some people might be interested.
Keizo:
I've only completed up to high school because I had to begin working to help my family. But I worked at the Downtown public library for 8 years and had plenty of resources to read. Also, the high school I went to was one of the toughest in the nation (academically, that is). And by "family"… No, I don't have children, but my siblings’ father left them when they were babies and left my mother with his debts. My own parents divorced when I was 5… I'm just trying to be clear.
FC:
Ha! You once described yourself as an "anti-Socialite." What does this mean, and does it relate to your divided cultural heritage, your family situation, disenchantment with U.S. society/consumerism, the opportunities that you've been handed...?
Keizo:
All of the above!
FC:
[The "Ha!" was in response to your "toughest academically...” as in, "not one where you're getting shot at every day".]
Keizo:
That's my gang-ridden neighborhood where I have actually been shot at and shot back. I hate it. I qualified for a better school, though.
FC:
Ha! Seriously? Do you want to add anything, or move on?
Keizo:
Anyway, I don't like how phony one has to be to play the games involved in interaction as opposed to being genuine. I don't like elitists.
FC:
This is good stuff! We're getting somewhere!
Keizo:
Groovy.
FC:
You've also said that you were "disappointed in the human race." Of course, in context, you were referring to spammers. Do you want to expand on this statement/retract it/explain some feelings? If spammers represent the human race, we're all going to hell.
Keizo:
There's a lot to say here. There are a lot of reasons. I can try to answer some of them if you like
FC:
I agree with you. Post-Holocaust, mankind is getting harder and harder to defend. Why don't we pick up with atheism?
Keizo:
“Tell me true. Tell me why... was Jesus crucified. Was it for THIS that Daddy died?” That’s a line from a Pink Floyd song. The singer’s father was killed in WWII. Anyway, about atheism, I was a Christian for the first half of my life. I was experiencing some heavy stuff during my teen years and religion offered no comfort so I started to question it. The more I questioned (which is considered "taboo") the more I became disillusioned. I read the entire bible when I was 15 and it only made me question it more. It has always been my nature to question, though.
FC:
I have to ask. "Heavy stuff"?
Keizo:
Okay, I'll bite. That's when my siblings’ father divorced my mother. That's when I first experienced true heartbreak. I was under immense pressure at school... When I saw so much hypocrisy in the scriptures, I pulled away and came up with my own "meaning of Life" when I was 17.
FC:
Then tell us the meaning of life.
Keizo:
You won't like it.
FC:
Well, something's better than nothing - especially where meaning is concerned!
Keizo:
Bah! Do you really want to hear it? I wrote it as a poem back then.
FC:
Oh please! The People demand it!
Keizo:
Here it goes:

We celebrate birthdays and holidays and create traditions…
Even animals have rituals
We contemplate
We rationalize and justify; Document and define
We recognize and utilize;
We acknowledge and ignore.
We appreciate and reject and more so than we affect,
We that are alive… even plantlife… Are Affected,
Therefore giving the Universe purpose
Thereby giving us purpose…

Quite simply: The Meaning of Life is to Give Meaning To Life…
Otherwise It has none.
A lonely star is animate but pointless

…And to take this “meaning” a step further for us sentient, higher lifeforms, it seems also important to us that we be able to share our findings, experience, and process of discovery with one another in order to assert our individual and unique claims to existence, while... (hopefully) growing from each other's perspectives
FC:
Read Victor Frankl' "Man's Search for Meaning" if you haven't already (sounds like you already have). Oops. No interruptions...
Keizo:
No, I haven't read him. These were my thoughts as I came to this conclusion independently. That's it. And that was also part of my road to atheism.

[noidguy]

FC:
Excellent. Any other comments? Perhaps we can segue to your relations with the opposite sex (in "real life," not as pertaining to ASFR). You wanted to find a meaning for your own life in someone else?
Keizo:
Not necessarily… although, that IS where I have found my greatest joy... once. I have really bad luck.
FC:
The spectre of loves lost ALWAYS rear their (usually disquietingly pretty) faces. Or do heads rear? Heads, I think. Before they turn tail.
Keizo:
Heh. Good one.
FC:
Want to comment on this, or does the community need to know when to butt out?
Keizo:
What would you like to know? I was an outcast throughout most of my childhood and this was mostly due to my being part Japanese. I was always being picked on and had many fights. Because of this I didn't have many female acquaintances when I was a kid. Also because it was actually considered "GAY" to like playing with girls while growing up back then in a Macho Mexican Barrio! What the F**K! Can you blame me for being confused when I was a kid? I couldn’t find acceptance anywhere.
FC:
The nature of the experience. And its effects on your psyche, particularly if they somehow fit in with your ASFR fetish / "preference [as Keizo once described it]".
Keizo:
This is very relevant to that
FC:
Continue...
Keizo:
Because of this I didn't get the social skills and confidence that goes with it... and we all know how much confidence means to women. That's why they love "bad boys" so much. And I had grown to loath bad boys. Anyway, by the time I entered high school, I was looked down upon because of my social class. The high school was occupied by mostly the rich since only a total of 600 students can be enrolled there. That’s 600 in a city of four million. And I was quite lower class.

Afterwards, I was very busy trying to help my family and working life only proved discouraging since "sexual harassment" was always a tool that could be used to ruin someone when one works for any government. I had seen it happen a few times.
FC:
But you're not bad-looking. Have you gone to the singles-bars? Has your mom or sister or something ever tried to set you up? [My DENTAL HYGEINIST DID ONCE! NO JOKE! didn't work out though...]
Keizo:
I'm not bad looking. But I found the club scene very much not my taste and, unfortunately, the people you meet there are into it. But keep in mind that at that time I was working while still living at my mother’s home and trying like hell to help her raise her children and to support us.
FC:
You've been "stood-up, dumped, rejected"...
Keizo:
Yes. Many, many, times. And I never was given the courtesy of an explanation. I didn’t understand because I always tried hard to be considerate.
FC:
And this has had an impact on your relationship to ASFR.
Keizo:
Of course.
FC:
Let's broach this new topic here: Do you see a causal effect (rejection moves you closer to ASFR); an opposite causal effect (girls don't like me BECAUSE I like ASFR); or: Because of ASFR, I can't interact normally with girls. Or what? Both are components of your (sex)life. I doubt they are independent.
Keizo:
It is more in tune with the former. "ASFR," as the community calls it, has been a part of me since a very young age, although more innocently and for practicality in the beginning. But it is only a matter of course that rejection would drive me closer to the sexual ends of my interest as well. I can't truly say that females don't like me because of ASFR, because they have never known. But I interact very well with girls on a casual and professional level. It's part of being a mailman.
FC:
Ha!
Keizo:
?
FC:
["Part of being a mailman]. Surely something more subtle and less conscious than the above-outlines possibilities... Let's talk about that - ASFR and you. When did it start? TV? Long before dating? Not initially sexual (overtly)?
Keizo:
Yes. It began when I was about 5 years old. I have always liked girls for one reason or another, but as I mentioned, it wasn't "macho" to like them. Science was also one of my early interests. As a child, I saw an episode of The Twilight Zone late one night called "The Lonely" and I immediately associated the two.
FC:
A match made in heaven (if you believe in that!), nes pa?
Keizo:
It was an answer to my desire to play with females and not be criticized by my male peers because robots were always considered cool. When I would bring it up, though, I was met with mostly laughter. This drove me to start keeping it secret. As I became more interested in girls while growing up, this was always in the back of my mind, but now it's just natural.
FC:
Many nights wishing you were stranded on an asteroid? So, as you matured, it began (necessarily) to take on sexual overtones? So for how long did you wonder if the attraction to the artificial was normal but taboo to talk about?
Keizo:
Oh yes. I didn't really wish to be stranded on an asteroid, though! I wondered for a very long time. And, as with most people, the advent of the internet gave a voice to this secret.
FC:
I suspect that it's the same case with most of us.
Keizo:
I'm sure many of us know the relief that was felt when learning we were not alone. But the truth is that most of the females I know and who I have heard speak of things related to “ASFR” …they view it in a negative light. No kidding.
FC:
Indeed! So what and when was your first contact?
Keizo:
My first contact?
FC:
With the online community. Unless there's something else you want to say first. Would you say that ASFR has become a larger component of your identity since finding the online community? The legitimization that it brings? The fellowship (of sorts)?
Keizo:
It was in 1997 when the public library system I was working for first connected online. We used the LYNX system, which was pure text. I did a search for "robots" and "female" and that was the beginning. Even though it was only text, yes, I felt a greater component of my identity being accepted. But it was already ingrained in me by that time. Although, I still don't agree with the term "ASFR" as it applies to me.
FC:
I use "ASFR" because it is a convenient acronym. How would you put it better?
Keizo:
Techno-sexual. As you know, I made mention before that this "legitimizes" it more as an orientation, than a mere "fetish."
FC:
Interesting!
Keizo:
Yes. You also know that I have mentioned that I don't gel with the community so much. I have to accept that “ASFR” is what it is called by them, though.
FC:
“How often do you find your techno-sexual nature coming out?” -Tully. More now that you know there's this growing online forum for people with a similar orientation? In a moment, I'll ask you how you differentiate yourself from the others who appear on FC (as you perceive them). Because this is interesting stuff.
Keizo:
I always find it coming out. I have for most of my life now. The online community has not changed that at all. Several times I have left the community as a matter of fact, but I was asked back on those occasions by friends I have made there.
FC:
But you probably draw a considerable amount of ideas from it? Or at least comfort? [Now we're getting somewhere!] I didn't know that you ever left. Can you explain this?
Keizo:
Sure I draw from it. I'm sure I may have ended up lurking occasionally as you suggest, but my leaving was based on general difference of views.
FC:
You've also said that just about everyone you've had contact with through the online forums have been nice people...
Keizo:
I’ve also said that I’ve been occasionally met with elitist attitudes.
FC:
Wait! You call it an “orientation” or “preference” rather than a “mere fetish”. I sympathize. What exactly do you mean? Is this the difference of opinion to which you seem to be alluding? Or am I getting ahead of us?
Keizo:
Yes. I'd rather go into this.
FC:
Alright. The Gentleman has the floor.
Keizo:
Fetish suggests something trivial or even demeaning. Fetish even suggests perversion or dirty secrets... even something malicious. I prefer "orientation" or “lifestyle,” "preference,” or even "option" as it pertains to me. One can be attracted to fembots for many reasons, but ultimately it is because they can be as beautiful and compatible as you want them to be. But for me it's not purely sexual, and the term “ASFR” suggests all the negative things.
FC:
To you, being a techno-sexual is...akin to being gay, lesbian? You would say that it's a deviant sexual preference, but not illegitimate or purely psychological? This is interesting... And not only sexual! A lifestyle?
Keizo:
Absolutely. It is what I am compelled towards the most whether I like it or not.
FC:
Because it encompasses more than just sexual desire? It also seeks to fulfill an emotional need... And it should be accepted as one of any number of other orientations, and afforded the same respect.
Keizo:
Yes. Definitely that too. But also because I need a true partner. I would like to be with someone who will help me reach my potentials, as I would try to do in return.
FC:
Instead, if we, ourselves, label it as a fetish and nothing more, then mainstream society (to the extent that we are even on RADAR) will as well. And you can't abide this.
Keizo:
Yup. You got it.
FC:
And you've fallen out with other members of the community in the past because of this view of yours?
Keizo:
Yes I have… but among other things such as politics to a smaller extent.
FC:
It is the most extreme techno-sexual view there is, I guess. It must have taken a long time for you to admit this about yourself and try to come to grips with it. Especially since you were basically a pioneer. And alone 'till '97. At least.
Keizo:
I suppose. For most of the community, this is nothing more than a novelty. That’s the truth. But anyway, by saying that I need a true partner, I also assert that I recognize my own shortcomings and I need help to overcome them if that means being encouraged or even "nagged" by my partner. If it is done constructively and for my benefit, I’ll welcome it. I also want someone who will fulfill my other needs, but who will tolerate my passions. It has been a long road.
FC:
This is really cool stuff. You've written that at one stage in your life ("pre-acceptance"?) you tried to "turn off" your own sexuality?
Keizo:
Yes I did, but I have always considered this interest part of me. Lust was only hurting me, though.
FC:
Continue.
Keizo:
I called it my "Vow of Indifference." I didn't want to be phased by physical attraction because it always turned out badly for me and because I really wished I could put this HUGE amount of energy to more productive ends in so far as my own creative pursuits. I honestly tried to see a woman whom I was attracted to as simply a person that I wasn't attracted to because I also felt ashamed of the preferential treatment I gave them. After several years of constant conscious effort, I had finally achieved this when one woman came along and ruined it for me forever.
FC:
And did women notice your attempts to treat them like this (rather than as sexual objects)? Aha. The arch-villainess.
Keizo:
I don't think they noticed or cared. Yes. This woman I refer to as my "muse" because that’s exactly what she was.

[noidguy]

FC:
Hold the phone! You say you actually achieved Nirvana? A state of sublime sexual detachment!? Also, let's hear a bit more about her!
Keizo:
I felt such an overwhelming compulsion towards her that I couldn't understand it and I tried to deny it. Why her? Why? To this day I still can't explain it. She brought out the best in me. The first time I met her I wrote one song a night for week. I had never been able to do that so quickly before. Also, she inspired me to create the best painting I have ever done. Naturally, she was already spoken for.
FC:
What did she look like? How'd you meet? How far did it get? She knew you loved her?
Keizo:
She looked like a redheaded goddess of the hunt. I met her at a fundraiser dance. It didn't get very far at all. And I think the song I wrote for her suggested how intensely I felt, although the song even says I couldn't explain it. I even told her that I wrote it because I felt she deserved to have something such as this written for her. The point is this. Because of her, I found that although I had reached this "level" to focus my energies, I needed INSPIRATION. A muse. And help.
FC:
You don't happen to be willing to share some lyrics with us?
Keizo:
How about just the chorus?
FC:
Sure!
Keizo:
I'd fight a thousand wars
Break down a thousand doors
I'd brave a thousand shores
And tell the whole world I am only yours

Just to have you in my life
Just to have you by my side
Just to whisper in your ear
My love so deep, strong, and sincere

But I cannot give you paradise
The kind of life you live, I can't provide
I can only promise that for you I'd live
And that all I am, to you I'd give

Keizo:
It's called "Dying is Easy, I'd Live for You"
FC:
Did you use software to record the song (is it like, techno?) Morbid title...ever think of suicide? Have to say that!
Keizo:
Yes I have. But regardless, this is all copyrighted, by the way.
FC:
And did you ever sing it to her? Or a real recording studio?
Keizo Keizo:
No. But I did give her a written copy of the whole song. I've only done the song with an acoustic guitar.
FC:
That's cool. Her reaction? Equally as "cool"?
Keizo:
She smiled. I have sworn never to come between two people, though. That would violate my code of honor.
FC:
How long ago was this?
Keizo:
This was at least 7 years ago.
FC:
Coinciding with your 1997 discovery of other techno-sexuals?
Keizo:
It was actually a bit before then.
FC:
Was this episode an impetus?
Keizo:
I would say it certainly did get the wheels turning again, but I can't say for the better.
FC:
Care to explain that? [did you start going for what one contributor calls "fembot snuff"?]
Keizo:
Hell no. That disgusts me.
FC:
It was Xanderfox. [Apologies for my work, then!] Then what do you mean, not for the better?
Keizo:
The need she created in me (or made me realize) has become too much of a preoccupation. I say to myself, "Keep too occupied to be preoccupied" but even I can't take my own advice… although I do keep terribly busy. It's not that I'm trying to run away from the issue, just that there is no viable solution yet... except for one.
FC:
You have repeatedly said that you look forward to real gynoids in your own lifetime. Don’t you think that’ll just dead-end your love-life for good?
Keizo:
No. That solution came in the form of my only ex-girlfriend, whom I met three years after my "muse."
FC:
Oh...something different...go on.
Keizo:
About my ex, she was the most gentle and considerate girl I have ever known, but she still could be strong. Not to mention she was beautiful. Her life ambition was to become a Buddhist nun, though, so she left me to follow her dream.
FC:
So, a second love?
Keizo:
My ex? Oh yes! Unfortunately she spoiled me and set my standards rather high. But even all the times I had lowered them, I still found no reasonable or willing females. To this day I still try to ask out girls that I feel attracted to. There just haven’t been any honest takers. Also, this was not the first time religion had come between me and a girl that I cared for. Although this ultimately served to reinforce my atheism, I did support her beliefs. She knew mine (or lack thereof) and didn't take offense or use that against me. We actually had some very civil and interesting debates. Buddhists are cool.
FC:
In a response to one of my threads on FC, you said: “I have ultimately created my own ideal and wrote my own story based on her and on a real person.” Explain? Is this Buddhist girl "the real person?" An alternative to allowing girls another opportunity to disappoint you again?
Keizo:
No. The real person was an ideal I created of my "muse" since she inspired me so much. I am willing to give relationships a try, but only if there is not too much baggage attached. I do admit that I am more cautious now, because I have been hurt badly even recently.
Keizo:
If you want the story, I'll email it to you. Very few folks liked it.
FC:
Sure - give it here!
Keizo:
I'll email it to you. It's a bit long. I tried to actually write a STORY and incorporate my desires and this "interest" into it. An interesting fact about the story, though… it was only supposed to be around 5 pages originally, but it just got way out of hand.
FC:
I know how that goes. What's the title?
Keizo:
It was "The Enemy of My Enemy" but I changed it to "The Enemy of My Own Worst Enemy" when I added a sequel to it called "Portia."
FC:
Isn't it on the LTBSA? (website: Legacy of Timeless Beauty Story Archive)
Keizo:
No.
FC:
I know I've heard the name before... Anyway, you seem to be quite “on top” of gynoids in media (TV / miniseries / music / magazines / internet) [no pun intended!]...
Keizo:
I fear that I am not as much as I used to be due to circumstances.
FC:
Circumstances...
Keizo:
I don't have permanent home at the moment and am actually rebuilding a house. This has been going on for MONTHS so I haven't been able to do much else or stay abreast of the latest news, but I do what I can.
FC:
What has influenced your techno-sexual development the most (apart from "The Lonely"). Stories online? 1980s TV shows?
Keizo:
More like pre-80s TV shows. Honestly, I read very few stories since I don’t relate to them.
FC:
Examples?
Keizo:
Bionic Woman. Star Trek. Movies like Westworld, Dr. Goldfoot, Stepford Wives, etc. I saw these when I was an innocent impressionable lad!
FC:
You mention that our society is hypocritical. Would you say the US has a techo-sexual-psychological complex? You've alluded to something like this in some of your writing. What does this mean? Fembots (overt or implied) are everywhere in all media (magazines, marketing, etc.). Yet...
Keizo:
Yes. We tend to try to project a moral high ground by trying to downplay our own sexuality when interacting or expressing ourselves, yet we indulge it in private. Just look at ratings. But ask most people what they tend to watch and they will deny the guilty pleasures.
FC:
Submission, power, control...male-dominated sex.
Keizo:
As far as fembots. I'm sure that it is becoming more prevalent but probably because it ALLOWS for indulgence. These are natural issues. We are taught shame, but there are still fantasies that pop in our heads, regardless. This suggests that desire is what is really in control. This brings me to another point...
FC:
“ASFR” is presumably easily criticized (as a fetish) because it makes these implied relationships overt...
Keizo:
One of the things that I hate is that I have no control over my thoughts (hence "The Vow of Indifference") but this manifests in most of us as wanting to be in control of our circumstances. For me, it’s not controlling someone else’s life, but MY OWN destiny. I even LIKE giving back because it makes me feel good. If I could control my thoughts, I would naturally chose whatever life throws at me as giving me the most pleasure. I would love being poor and living in a dump with no girl of my dreams.
FC:
The goal of Stoicism (read Marcus Aurelius' Meditations).
Keizo:
Yes. But although I found I was once able to reach a degree of this in this one aspect of my life, I could not in other aspects. Now I cannot at all. I can only hope to surround myself with comforting "distractions."

[noidguy]

FC:
So you rely on the online community to supply this distraction to you?
Keizo:
Sometimes. Even in the community, a common interest does not suggest a kindred spirit. Just as someone liking the same music as you, this does not give credence to the deeper associations, nor does it imply that this is someone you could befriend in real life.
FC:
["Community-homogeneity" doesn't necessarily connote homogeneity]. I see... So pin the tail on exactly what you find that separates you from this community!
Keizo:
I feel a degree of responsibility for the messages I might convey... endorse... or PERPETUATE. And that is usually that I take this "interest" very seriously so I try to encourage a positive image and/or acceptance of gynoids and attraction to them.
FC:
Convey - endorse - perpetuate! Go on... Give us messages!
Keizo:
Well don't get me wrong. I know that our psychological needs are not that easily appeased. But I do believe that technology will advance to the point of having those compulsions and desires completely “fooled” or appeased once fembots can emulate or be given a personality. We just have to LET ourselves be fulfilled. I know that sometimes true desire will also only come where there is respect and it is hard to respect a gynoid because they start out as objects and may not have accomplishments of their own. But when she becomes more than an object and acts as a true partner, then respect may come too. But I really don't think that it is for the best that she be given a capacity to be hurt, jealous, or anything that can be potentially harmful. Although this is also a matter of perception, most times in the mainstream they are usually shown gaining negative attributes that are attached only to humans.
FC:
[don't worry - I'm "listening"!]
Keizo:
If one considers "emergent behavior" into the equation, there is certainly a possibility for independent thought, but we should set the boundaries. We can “guide” their perception to be constructive, optimistic, and help them gain the positive attributes and attitudes. We have to keep in mind that they will have very different needs so they may not share our ambitions… which are usually selfish. We operate more on a hierarchy of chimpanzees where as they will evolve very differently… but with our guidance. So we should try to do it right.
FC:
So you definitely believe that androids will exist. And the sooner the better? [I think we all hope this, on some level - you may not be as different as you think you are!]
Keizo:
I think androids (especially gynoids) are inevitable.
FC:
I hope you're right... you probably are. But who can say anything about the timeline we're talking about, really? I understand you have some ideas.
Keizo:
Well. In order for us to have the ultimate assistants, they would have to be anthropomorphic. Human-like. They would have to be able to navigate our environments as well as others just like we do… and sit in our chairs, walk on our stairs. They would have to be able to use all of our tools and equipment… to be able to drive our cars as well as use a can opener. And even things that already exist, such as a realdoll, show that we will certainly entertain the sexual ends of it.
FC:
Makes sense. Do you own one?
Keizo:
A realdoll. Yes. And I still find myself asking real girls out. Unfortunately the realdoll I acquired was heavily damaged and I have been slowly repairing her for two years now. The genitalia being the last and hardest thing to work on. Even though I don't have much money this is how seriously I take my interest. It took all of my savings and she isn’t even the model I would have chosen, but I could never have been able to afford one otherwise. It's nice having her around, though.
FC:
Aha. Does she have a name?
Keizo:
Sure. Mazzy. As in Mazzy Star
FC:
I miss that reference... And I've got to ask... although with the damage, you might not be able to tell...
Keizo:
Tell what? If I've DONE her?
FC:
You know...<WINK> Prying... Or is it more just a psychological comfort?
Keizo:
I'm game. Of course I have. Who wouldn't? Even a non-techno-sexual would probably try if left alone with one. I just admit it. It actually was pretty nice. And yeah, she's a psychological comfort. After seeing beautiful playboy aged girls all day, it's nice to know I can come home and just touch something that looks and feels like one. She is not "functional" at the moment, though, and has not been for a long time.
FC:
Must have been fun when she arrived. I don't want this to turn into a plug for Realdolls Co., but... satisfied customer? (Besides that little snag... and what happened to her, anyway?)
Keizo:
They are MUCH more delicate than I would care for them to be. It was very fun when she arrived, but her previous owner had really not taken care of her. The snag was that by "testing" her, it completely finished the job on the damage already done to that area.
FC:
Bummer.
Keizo:
HUGE bummer. And she recently got yet another set-back when I had her in storage. There was some surface deterioration on her face and feet because of the harsh environment of the storage area.
FC:
Damn it. Not the face!
Keizo:
I know. And I had already repaired the jaw, but I don't even know how to approach this.
FC:
Here's another question: What, exactly, do you like about being techno-sexual? And would you rather not be one? Since you’ve acted on the demands presented by this preference (e.g. The realdoll, writing, being game for this interview, etc.)…
Keizo:
What I like is that it indulges the possibility of possibilities. The only reason I would rather not be one is because I feel it would only serve to outcast me especially since this is not even yet a true option to relationships. I do feel a compulsion to indulge in these demands because I do feel that this will be a reality someday and I want to do what little I can to help promote this. I want to make that choice when it does. But shamelessness would be my only option if I could ever have this dream realized.
FC:
This interview is definitely part of that contribution. Howard Stern style?
Keizo:
Somewhat. I could be outspoken about it and act as if it's completely natural. For example:
"Are you seriously having sex with a robot?!"
"Yeah. And?"
FC:
My man! I really have respect for your views — taking this orientation (not fetish) mainstream and hopefully from science fiction to reality.
Keizo:
Thanks. I'm glad that I can help in what little ways I could.
FC:
One final question then, because everybody will want to know. You have contributed to the community before. Besides being a regular participant in FC discussion, you’ve written the two stories we’ve already mentioned. You’ve also written some comic that I never saw but was apparently well-received. Any ongoing projects? Other than the dratted repairs, that is?
Keizo:
I have done some manips and some other contributions that I have chosen to keep silent about. Other things I work on for my own pursuits are music (as I have mentioned), more writing, artwork, and things like that. It would be great if I could one day be the first celebrity to openly endorse gynoids!
FC:
I'm sure the group would appreciate any other work you give it.
Keizo:
I hope. They tend to not give much feedback!
FC:
In that case, do you want to make any shout-outs to whoever might be reading this? Most of the contributing members will be, I assume. "Members" - - - EEK! Did I say that!?
Keizo:
I'd like to thank the Academy. Well, also all those that have contributed and those that maintain the domains that we have found our havens.
FC:
The issue of techno-sexual marriage...think it'll merit a constitutional amendment? [Trying not to get political here...]
Keizo:
It will never be recognized. I've alluded to it in my stories. I'm sure the issue over gay marriages has shown us some things to come. A funny thing might be that businesses like airlines and movie theaters will charge for their seats as for other people, so it could be the start of the argument to treat some as people!
FC:
I, for one, am looking forward to reading your stories. Interviewing you was fun, by the way. I think we might wind up talking again later.
Keizo:
That would be cool. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
FC:
Four hours is pretty good. We'll get some feedback for this for sure...
Keizo:
It would be interesting! I'll dig up those stories and send them. Have a goodnight.
FC:
You too! Tell Mrs. Star 'Hi' from Heini B! And I'll email you in a sec with the transcript..
Keizo:
Awesome.

[Pleasureunit]

That was brilliant! I like this idea! Good work, Brueckmann and Noidguy, and of course, kudos to Keizo for being so open in sharing!

More interviews!!!!!! I want Mirage, Sarabot, and Stephaniebot interviewed, with all speed!

Queen

[Stephaniebot]

Yes I like the way this interview has been done,and both Mirage and I have already volunteered to be interviewed in the future,though I guess I may be a problem due to the time differences between me and the US but certainly would love it done.Must admit Araenae is 1 I'm looking forward to who has already volunteered,and Rotwang who hasnt as yet.Sarabot we await on too,hope she agrees as well.
Noidguy,this feature works well,long may it continue

[ANDROID69]

this is a great Idea!!! Thanks guys & Keizo for being so open & honest:) I'm up for this just let me when:) Your ol pal PETE#69/ANDROID69

[kb7rky]

Hey, I wanna be interviewed, too!!!



Doug

[DollSpace]

Very nice! I enjoyed reading it a lot

Ryn

[barakuda]

Wow very Deep stuff. Hienrick asked thetough questions and Kiezo answered them all. Even elaberatung on them to make his point clear. Now if only our politicians were so deep,frannk and straight forword and clear with there answers. that would the day. Great Job guys!!!!!!

Barakuda