TrueCompanion: The first-ever sex robot?

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Post by Svengli » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:38 pm

Yeah,

The doll looks like a generic porn actress. News for some people: porn actresses aren't chosen 'cause they have the look men crave for a sex partner. Porn actresses are chosen 'cause they are willing to make porn movies. Future doll makers, please look to the Hollywood (non-porn) stars for your future dolls.

Still, the question of realcompanion isn't appearance but functions. For the right price, it seems there are superlative looking dolls and realCompanion could always be reskinned or have a new model created.

She was billed as a robot. What does she do?

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Post by fnord » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:38 pm

according to posts about AVI "It" is to be fired up on Sat. Wonder what 8 track they might use ...something from the Be Gees is my guess...lol. So no idea what actions it will or won't be capable of. Or price !
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Post by handle » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:57 am

I'm a little more concerned about the visible seam on the doll - if it's merely a prototype and this will be engineered out of sight in the final model this is irrelevant, but sex is a messy and fluid-intensive sort of fun, and I don't think it would be a good idea to have the innards of the doll putting out (or worse, admitting) any fluids. could be a shock hazard at the right voltage.

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Post by fnord » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:24 pm

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looks like

Post by loki4213 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:06 pm

It sort of looks like Catherine Tate with blonde hair.

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Re: looks like

Post by Stephaniebot » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:29 am

loki4213 wrote:It sort of looks like Catherine Tate with blonde hair.


Yes, I can definitely see that too.
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Post by minkwheel » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:45 am

Perhaps we should ask Catherine if she is "BOVERED" by it.
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A hoax or even fraud?

Post by rabiator » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:45 am

The creators of Roxxxy claim she can do lots of things up to carrying a conversation, but in the videos she is only sitting there. Might be a custom Realdoll without anything else for all we know.

So I wouldn't pay any money for it until there is a more meaningful demonstration.

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Post by minkwheel » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:51 pm

I'm actually WAY more impressed by AIKO and how far SHE'S gone in such a short time..... If Aiko's creator had unlimited money and assistants, imagine what could be accomplished....I actually would like to see him hired by HONDA to work on HRP-4C.....SHE'S GOING TO NEED TO DO MORE THAN WINK AND LOOK SURPRISED in the future.
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Post by Lithorien » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:22 pm

If she could actually carry a conversation, it'd be pretty cool. :)

As it is, I wish they were doing beta testing. I'd volunteer. :)

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Post by Keizo » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:43 pm

I doubt that she can carry on a conversation. From the video demonstration, it seems as if all her responses were pre-recorded and only to the physical stimulation. The Actroid could reply to 4,000 questions in four languages and from various verbal dialects, but that's also ALL pre-recorded. The only interactive real-time advancement I have seen is with Le Trung and Aiko. They really need to consider contacting him since he has done more on his own than that entire team of scientists working all those years. And they really should just make a mold of a better face from a hot stripper or even off of a mannequin! I absolutely agree that porn stars are not the ideal look most men truly want as opposed to, say... a swimsuit model. Just my two cents.

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Post by petey » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:44 am

I think this is the place for it. This little rubber lump* made the rounds of the late night talk show monologues. Including The Colbert Report. Clip is probably U.S. only.

*- I'm certain this will be a term of endearment in 50 years.

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Post by PsychoKirby » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:02 am

Heh. Didn't Colbert interview David Levy a while back, actually?
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Post by Gorgo » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:30 pm

Robotman wrote:Holy fuck, that thing gets uglier every time I see it.
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Agreed. :shock:
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Post by Keizo » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:24 pm

NO, NO, NO!!! Please stop giving this any press! It makes all of us look bad. All non fembot fetishists will look at this and associate it with us and it doesn't represent us at all. It doesn't even compare to a realdoll in looks and makes us all look like desperate losers. Aiko can see and move and do so much more and her responses aren't pre-recorded. The Actroid has more pre-recorded responses than this thing and can actually move! Make it stop :!:
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Post by mysticblueca » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:09 pm

ARGH! The Nightmares have returned! Get it out of my head, get it out!!!!!

I'm with Keizo let it DIE!! Hopefully it will go away.

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Post by Stephaniebot » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:48 am

Robotman wrote:I'm guessing the guy who made this monstrosity is sexually attracted to retarded men... because that "doll" looks like a retarded man. :P
Have you never seen Catherine Tate on the TV at all, because she looks exactly like her!
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Post by DukeNukem 2417 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:20 am

Someone should take that ugly-ass thing behind a building and put it out of its misery. Any volunteers?
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Post by fnord » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:08 pm

I have to agree Stephaniebot it dose have a very distinct resemblance to Tate.

I guess too much Brit tv over the years here...lol
Have you never seen Catherine Tate on the TV at all, because she looks exactly like her!
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I believe the issue Tate is 41-42 now.

May be he's a closet Dr Who fan...I'm hoping for a Billy Piper ...lol
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Post by PsychoKirby » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:28 pm

Keizo wrote:NO, NO, NO!!! Please stop giving this any press! It makes all of us look bad. All non fembot fetishists will look at this and associate it with us and it doesn't represent us at all. It doesn't even compare to a realdoll in looks and makes us all look like desperate losers. Aiko can see and move and do so much more and her responses aren't pre-recorded. The Actroid has more pre-recorded responses than this thing and can actually move! Make it stop :!:
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I've got to agree here. If you look at the comments for any news article or video on the TrueCompanion, you'll see plenty of insults towards ASFRians. To be fair, these sort of comments, cruel as they are, show up anytime "normal" people discuss ASFR, but since here the robot in question is one most of us wouldn't even want it's even more unfair.
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Roxxxy the "Sex Robot" - Real or Fake?

Post by davidlevylondon@yahoo.com » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:30 am

Roxy the "Sex Robot" - Real or Fake?
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By David Levy


Late last year publicity started appearing in the media about a “sex robot” developed by a New Jersey entrepreneur, Douglas Hines. A web site www.truecompanion.com proudly proclaimed that

“We have been designing “Roxxxy TrueCompanion”, your TrueCompanion.com sex robot, for many years, making sure that she: knows your name, your likes and dislikes, can carry on a discussion and expresses her love to you and be your loving friend. She can talk to you, listen to you and feel your touch. She can even have an orgasm!”

Other amazing claims on the truecompanion.com site include:
“She also has a personality which is matched exactly as much as possible to your personality. So she likes what you like, dislikes what you dislike, etc. She also has moods during the day just like real people! She can be sleepy, conversational or she can “be in the mood”!

and

“Roxxxy also has a heartbeat and a circulatory system! The circulatory system helps heat the inside of her body.”

and

“She can talk to you about soccer, about your stocks in the stock market, etc.”

and

“We have been working on Roxxxy since 2001. The first few years were focused mainly on the artificial intelligence portion of Roxxxy TrueCompanion. Roxxxy is the 9th version of our sex robot. Our first sex robot, Trudy, was built in the 1990’s and was not designed for resale. Rather, she was a test bed to refine techniques which we would later use in Roxxxy and Rocky TrueCompanion.”

For millions of men eagerly awaiting the next major technological development that would enhance their sex lives, the announcements about Roxxxy probably seemed almost too good to be true. But the press launch of Roxxxy that took place at the Adult Entertainment Expo in Las Vegas on January 9th posed more questions than it answered.

Before examining some of these questions I should first state my credentials for instigating this investigation. I have been researching the subject of sex with robots in a serious academic manner since 2003. I did a rather thorough job of examining the relevant literature, for my book ‘Love + Sex With Robots’ and for my PhD thesis ‘Intimate Relationships with Artificial Partners’. During the course of that research I unearthed some 450 relevant publications from the fields of psychology, sexology, robotics, artificial intelligence, and others, ranging from academic papers to articles in the popular media. These publications are all mentioned in the bibliography to my thesis. I also exchanged emails, over a period of more than three years, with many experts in these fields. Not once did I come across the name Douglas Hines or any mention of his project. Nowhere on the Internet can one find a mention (prior to late 2009) of a sex robot developed in New Jersey (where Hines is based) or a mention of what he claims is an earlier sex robot developed by him - “Trudy”. How come?

Furthermore, I am acquainted with many prominent experts in the fields of Artificial Intelligence and Robotics, most of whom are based in North America, and not one of them has ever mentioned Douglas Hines or his project to me. Why?

Another thing that has surprised me was that, until I read about Douglas Hines and sought him out, he had not contacted me, even though my book has been extensively publicized on the Internet and via more than 120 radio, TV, newspaper and magazine interviews in the USA, and I am rather easy to find with a few minutes help from Google. Perhaps I am being immodest in claiming to be the world’s leading expert on this subject, but so far as I know no-one else has given lectures on the subject at academic conferences, and no-one else has written a comprehensive book on the subject or made it the topic for a Masters degree or PhD, so would it not be logical and sensible for anyone developing a sex robot to make contact with me in the hope of learning something useful? When Hines was asked by a journalist, in December, if he had contacted me, his reply was that he hadn’t been able to locate me. How come?

My suspicions have been further aroused by the implications of the claims Hines has been making for Roxxxy’s technical capabilities. If Roxxy can do everything alluded to on the truecompanion.com web site then Hines’s technical achievements would appear to have surpassed those of MIT, Stanford University, Carnegie Mellon and all of the world’s other leading research establishments in fields as diverse as speech recognition (“She hears what you are saying”), human-computer conversation (“Have a Conversation or Sex — It is Up to You!”), artificial emotion and personality (Roxxxy is claimed to provide its owners “with companionship and unconditional love”), and other research areas within the fields of artificial intelligence and robotics. How come Hines has achieved so much in the world of artificial intelligence without having had, so far as one can tell, so much as a single paper published on the subject?

And is it reasonable to believe that Douglas Hines could really have achieved all this? In my opinion it is not, despite his claim that “I was with Bell Labs Artificial Intelligence”.

In December the truecompanion.com web site announced that Roxxxy would be launched at a press conference on January 9th at the 2010 Adult Entertainment Expo in Las Vegas. The Las Vegas demonstration can be viewed on You-Tube at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r0eRQ_0C-I
where it appears that touching Roxxxy’s hand causes it to exclaim that it “likes holding hands with you”, but what does that prove? Only that an electronic sensor is linked to some sort of recorded sound output. It is not a demonstration of the speech technology that would be needed in a talking conversational robot. And furthermore, the You-Tube video and Hines’s behaviour during the demonstration prompts the question — how much of the technology was inside Roxxxy and how much in the computer or whatever electronics there were located behind the prototype?

Another surprising element of Hines’s publicity is the statement that Roxxy cost between $500,000 and $1 million to develop. I have been in the business of developing consumer electronic products for the past 30 years or so, and have spend a considerable amount of time and money in the development of leading edge human-computer conversation software (which is just one part of the jigsaw of technologies needed to produce a Roxxxy), and I simply cannot understand how Hines managed to keep the development costs of Roxxxy so low. How did he do it for so little? After all, a product such as is described on his web site would be a huge and very expensive development task, especially in view of all the high level expertise that would be needed and which Hines claims to have employed on his project:

“True Companion has pulled talent from organizations in the US focused on movie productions, military products as well as people from the leading artificial intelligence and animatronic institutions . . .”

And while we are on the subject of costs, how is it that Roxxxy, with all of its “capabilities”, is advertised at $6,500, when a non-sex robot (with very few degrees of freedom) from leading American robotics company, Hanson Robotics, costs $50,000 and up? How can Hines offer so much more for so much less?

Now let me comment on a little “due diligence” checking that anyone can carry out on Douglas Hines and his business, courtesy of Google.
The business is based in Lincoln Park, New Jersey, at the same address as another Hines business — Data Software Solutions LLC
( http://www.datasoftwaresolutions.com/ ). Looking at the web site of Data Software Solutions gives a good impression at first — it is a professionally designed site and gives all the appearances of being the site of a company with substance. The company claims to be run by “World class professionals committed to providing your solution on time and within budget”, and there are pages within the site devoted to the company’s claimed activities in accounting, field staff automation, reporting, e-commerce and other business areas. Yet despite having studied these pages somewhat carefully I simply cannot understand exactly what it is that Data Software Solutions does, and the site raises some rather obvious questions: Who are the clients of Data Software Solutions? What projects has the company carried out? And why is it, despite claims on the web site that Data Software Solutions has offices in New York, California and Bangalore, that Google was unable to help me find nothing about any of those offices, and a check through the telephone directories for all three locations fails to find any mention of them?

Isn’t this all rather suspicious?

Hines’s launch in Las Vegas has attracted quite a lot of media attention and, presumably, the attention of many prospective customers for Roxxxy’s supposedly seductive charms. And at the beginning of this month (February 2010) Hines’s web site started to take orders for Roxxxy, advertising the product at a “sale price” of $6,495, which it claims represents a reduction of $500. Accompanying the invitation to place an order, the site also presents a “Master Agreement” that extends to 15 clauses of legalese, covering the purchase of Roxxxy and subscriptions to associated services. When I last checked this part of the site (on February 6th), the “Contents list” at the head of the Master Agreement omitted any mention of the “RETURNS, REFUNDS AND CANCELLATION POLICY” (clause 12.1), which makes it clear that once production commences the purchaser can not get any of his money refunded. This begs the question - why would any customer be willing to part with their money without any possibility of recovery, when there has been no public demonstration or independent product review of a fully working Roxxxy that can perform as advertised?

Since the truecompanion.com site started taking orders for Roxxxy, various news sites have been issuing comments such as
“Roxxxy won't be available for delivery for several months, but Hines is taking pre-orders through his Web site, TrueCompanion.com, where thousands of men have signed up.”

If there have indeed been thousands of men so far ordering Roxxxy, what does this mean for Douglas Hines and his business? Answer - sixes of millions of dollars, all for a product the advertised capabilities of which have yet to be demonstrated to the buying public. And with availability being several months away, if it turns out that Hines cannot deliver what he promises he will meanwhile have accrued payments for several months worth of orders before the first thousands of unlucky customers discover that they have wasted their money.

So to anyone who is thinking of ordering a Roxxxy I would respectfully suggest this. First ask Douglas Hines to permit you to visit his office at 7 Mason Avenue, Lincoln Park NJ, or if you live too far away to want to travel to Lincoln Park then find a friend or relative who is near enough. Whoever visits should ask to see a proper demonstration of the conversational and other skills that are so enthusiastically proclaimed on the truecompanion.com web site. But you do not believe it is necessary to arrange such a visit, if you have complete faith in the advertised claims for Roxxxy, please let me know. I own a very nice bridge in Brooklyn that I’d like to sell you.
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Post by DukeNukem 2417 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:36 am

Finally, somone willing to investigate this TrueCompanion stuff with a new outlook! David, I tip my hat to you.
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Post by PsychoKirby » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:41 pm

Are you really the David Levy? I loved your book. :D

Anyway, thank you so much for the information. TrueCompanion seemed disappointing enough as it is, but the fact that it could very well be a scam is just downright insulting. Mr. Hines has a lot of explaining to do. :x
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