Some New Manga

[darkbutflashy]

Jedem das Seine, Thurosis.

And there we'd hit godwin's law. I annouce thee this discussion is over.

Epitaph, if you don't know the historical use of that sentence, please inform yourself and never use it again. It's poisoned. Period. If you do know and use it on purpose, shame on you.


EDIT: And if you ever need a non-toxic german proverb for "anyone may do as he likes", use Jedem Tierchen sein Pläsierchen (German, fake French, and, oh yes, it rhymes) literally meaning [Let] each deer [have] its pleasure. This is used in everyday German and has no historical connotation.

[Epitaph]

Jedem das Seine, Thurosis.

And there we'd hit godwin's law. I annouce thee this discussion is over.

Epitaph, if you don't know the historical use of that sentence, please inform yourself and never use it again. It's poisoned. Period. If you do know and use it on purpose, shame on you.

EDIT: And if you ever need a non-toxic german proverb for "anyone may do as he likes", use Jedem Tierchen sein Pläsierchen (German, fake French, and, oh yes, it rhymes) literally meaning [Let] each deer [have] its pleasure. This is used in everyday German and has no historical connotation.

Forgive my German, as I realize it is a little deficient. Jedem das Seine is the only wayI know how to express the meaning of suum cuique (to each their own) in German, and as Thurosis comes from Germany, I assumed a translation would be better and more direct.

Forgive me for the connotations, which I am aware of but I had meant the phrase in the spirit of its original Latin of suum cuique, whose Platonic/Ciceronian/Frederician liberal and tolerant meaning was what I was getting at. John Locke expresses it best when he said 'everyman has a property in his person; this nobody has a right to but himself.' What I was getting at was that one shouldn't haul another over the coals simply because of a difference in preferences, which is what was getting me somewhat steamed in the earlier comments.

In any case, thank you for the proverb in German. Hopefully it will prevent me from getting egg on my face in the future again.

[darkbutflashy]

its original Latin of suum cuique, whose Platonic/Ciceronian liberal and tolerant meaning was what I was getting at. John Locke expresses it best when he said 'everyman has a property in his person; this nobody has a right to but himself.' What I was getting at was that one shouldn't haul another over the coals simply because of a difference in preferences.

Yes, I've understood that. Suum Cuique is fine but hardly anybody but the Feldjäger (german military police) will know that latin saying in Germany. The Feldjäger only because it's their motto. Jedem das Seine used to be fine, too, before the Nazis put it on the Buchenwald gate. I'm not offended personally but there are people in german media who greatly exaggerate when that sentence is used, and they do it on purpose. There even was a Nokia commercial 20 years ago gaining attention only because it fell into the same trap you have fallen into.

In result, saying that in the particular context of some German flak'ing others, it could be understand as "You are joking about people you harass, you nazi bastard" and heat up a discussion instead of calming it down. Full circle, we are at godwin's law. End of lecture. Sorry.

[darkbutflashy]

On page 32 she said she had been suspended for 1804926 hours. That's 206 years. Kept yourself in good shape, granny.
And that what she says implies she acts in full consent. I'd be more curious about the boy. At which age does high school end in Japan? Damn Japanese and their school uniform fetish

[Epitaph]

its original Latin of suum cuique, whose Platonic/Ciceronian liberal and tolerant meaning was what I was getting at. John Locke expresses it best when he said 'everyman has a property in his person; this nobody has a right to but himself.' What I was getting at was that one shouldn't haul another over the coals simply because of a difference in preferences.

Yes, I've understood that. Suum Cuique is fine but hardly anybody but the Feldjäger (german military police) will know that latin saying in Germany. The Feldjäger only because it's their motto. Jedem das Seine used to be fine, too, before the Nazis put it on the Buchenwald gate. I'm not offended personally but there are people in german media who greatly exaggerate when that sentence is used, and they do it on purpose. There even was a Nokia commercial 20 years ago gaining attention only because it fell into the same trap you have fallen into.

In result, saying that in the particular context of some German flak'ing others, it could be understand as "You are joking about people you harass, you nazi bastard" and heat up a discussion instead of calming it down. Full circle, we are at godwin's law. End of lecture. Sorry.

No need to apologize! I genuinely appreciate the 'lecture', as you put it, as you're helping me avoid the pitfalls a non-native speaker would be otherwise unwary of.

[T-elos/Thurosis]

Oh Wow!
Looks like i've started something here ^^;
i apologize that something has been stirred up here.

I wasn't angry nor mad,because of BD message. I was just curious about his opinion about manga.
And now i know it.

I did not say to remove it because it concerns our interests and as i said young enough users of this forum could be interested.

Glad to hear

I did not say: "This is an abomination! REPENT IN CHRIST!"

Lol, i agree and glad to hear XD

I did not say: "I HATE MANGAAARGH!"

LOL², glad to hear²

I did not say: "Android 18 suxx. Down with this dragonball-like stuff. Faggots."

I do not like Android 18 either.... beside is she really an android? I believe that Akira Toriyama accidentally swap those words....

Jedem das Seine, Thurosis.

Yes, i agree. But i was just curious about BD opinion....
And i hear this very often at the end of a a discussion everyday, with friends
I of course tolerate others opinion. Maybe i used wrong words to bring out my curiosity about BD opinion.
So i apologize for the confusion ^^;

The Feldjäger only because it's their motto. Jedem das Seine used to be fine, too, before the Nazis put it on the Buchenwald gate. I'm not offended personally but there are people in german media who greatly exaggerate when that sentence is used, and they do it on purpose

I do not feel offended either. Many germans say "Jedem das Seine". And i believe mostly noboby remember nor know the origin meaning... ( i didn't know that these words were from the "Feldjägern" either XD)
We use them as common/nomal words.

On page 32 she said she had been suspended for 1804926 hours. That's 206 years. Kept yourself in good shape, granny.
And that what she says implies she acts in full consent. I'd be more curious about the boy. At which age does high school end in Japan? Damn Japanese and their school uniform fetish

I was referring to her age of appearance. If anyone has any proof that this character is supposed to appear as a human girl of a certain age, please state it here.

Oh i hope you are not going to shut down this treat.... i like it acutally

[--NightBattery--]

Jedem das Seine, Thurosis.

Epitaph, if you don't know the historical use of that sentence, please inform yourself and never use it again. It's poisoned. Period. If you do know and use it on purpose, shame on you.

I wonder what wikipedia has to say about that phrase i had never heard before...oh...ow..ow....ok, i get it know.

[BD]

I did not say: "Android 18 suxx. Down with this dragonball-like stuff. Faggots."

I do not like Android 18 either.... beside is she really an android? I believe that Akira Toriyama accidentally swap those words....

Here in italy they called her cyborg 18 but i have no idea what the actual japanese name was.

And i do like her, just... well the cartoon sucks a lot (the manga is nice, but the cartoon is boring even when viewed at 16x) and she is an android in name only. :/

[--NightBattery--]

And i do like her, just... well the cartoon sucks a lot (the manga is nice, but the cartoon is boring even when viewed at 16x) and she is an android in name only. :/

And i do like her, just... well the cartoon sucks a lot :/

just... well the cartoon sucks a lot :/

the cartoon sucks a lot :/

the cartoon sucks :/

a lot :/

16x :/

;_ ;

[BD]

what?!

It's dragonball.

The manga had like 20 pages per weekly chapter which were mostly people exchanging blows.

In the cartoon they took those 20 pages (which could be read in under 5 minutes if one took his time and tried to appreciate the art because there was no dialogue whatsoever) and tried to stretch them for slightly over 20 minutes. One page had to last 60 seconds.

Try to imagine reading an A5 format page for 60 seconds even when there is no dialogue, and it is maybe 4 or 5 panels, if not even a single full page panel.

Plus whenever the author would take a vacation or even a simple week off... the cartoon still had episodes!

Which meant that they had to fill 20 fricking minutes with stuff like:
- 20 minutes of aura charging in a week that had been taken off because that's what the last episode ended with and you had to make the episode despite the author being unavailable that week and resuming the week later.
- or make up stuff to be happening while those people were fighting. And naturally the continuity and in-universe plausibility was thrown off the window, and nobody cared that established in-universe facts were disregarded.
- or people "reminishing" stuff that in some cases HAPPENED IN THE SAME EPISODE OR THE PREVIOUS ONE.

So yeah. The manga was by far a lot better. And it's also something you can read with all ease in one day, maybe you could stretch it in 2 days. Try doing that with all the cartoon episodes.

'Cause it's supposed for kids, you know. Fuck them. Let them be bored to death even while watching that crap at 16x. Who cares, as long as there is ad revenue and merchandise flows.

[--NightBattery--]

oh well i guess i can't argue with that kind of logic, also goku is superman, and superman is jesus.
It's just that i never ever heard of some one disliking dragon ball mistakes passionately.
it was one of generation Y big meaningless things.

[darkbutflashy]

mostly people exchanging blows.

I vaguely remember the Anime being mostly about building up enough power for the next blow (which happened in the next episode - but only if nothing failed in the meantime).

However, The Alita: Last Order Manga had been this way during a great (and boring) number of chapters, too. Still the series is cool. And even constant fighting can be cool. Read Cyborg Kuro-chan, it's hilarious.

Try to imagine reading an A5 format page for 60 seconds even when there is no dialogue, and it is maybe 4 or 5 panels, if not even a single full page panel.

Oh, I sometimes do that when the story has slow pacing, like the mystery mangas written by Naoki Urasawa. My imagination fills in even more pictures.

Who cares, as long as there is ad revenue and merchandise flows.

General rule: it's the pile of crap which makes it possible to do art on its top.

[BD]

I vaguely remember the Anime being mostly about building up enough power for the next blow (which happened in the next episode - but only if nothing failed in the meantime).

Well they do that too, but usually in the manga it's one or two panels, unless it's a training thing (that is: building up enough power to make it thinkable to defeat the bad guy) but even there usually the focus switches onto people doing stuff and every now and then there is a panel on the guy that's training.

In the cartoon they spent so much time doing "oooh"s and "aaah"s that it felt like watching a slow motion climax build up between narcissistic body builders. What in the comic was a flash of power one panel long followed immediately by a blow in the cartoon it is unbearable. I've seen some charging up lasting even 20 minutes or more.

Now i only watch cartoons if by peer review i get told it was better than the comic/book that originated it (better, not same, i read one piece and naruto, but i don't follow their cartoons) or if people really tell me that it is a gem.

However, The Alita: Last Order Manga had been this way during a great (and boring) number of chapters, too. Still the series is cool. And even constant fighting can be cool. Read Cyborg Kuro-chan, it's hilarious.

I tried the cyborg cat... wasn't my type of humor. Alita last order was a bit "meh". The original Alita was incredible, this is an action comic with heavy combat focus with slapstick humor. There's a dozen a dime of comics like that, even featuring cyborgs. With boring infodumps and fart jokes i wonder if the guy making it is understanding why his originale story was a success. Though i imagine his behavious is so baffling only because he is actually wearing a trollface mask and doing this as a spiteful "take that" to the huge amount of requests to continue the original story.

Anyway when i read something like that (combat focused humor) i tend to prefer either intelligent humor or unintentional humor. Like "Red Eyes". It is so baaaaad and serious in its motives i find it irresistably hilarious. Or "Arms"/"Spriggan" (two comics, same author) really trash gems. Talking of fembots and going to the other side of the spectrum "Hexxaxion" was an action/combat comic which was an affectionate parody of sentai/megarobot genre featuring many T1000-like fembots. That one too was a real humor gem, i laughed so hard i felt in love with the story.

Oh, I sometimes do that when the story has slow pacing, like the mystery mangas written by Naoki Urasawa. My imagination fills in even more pictures.

Well it depends on the pacing of the story. When you see a couple of punches being exchanged or a martial arts move you don't go musing over the details of the scenery, like if he is consistently drawing the background from different angles while keeping the same details in the same spot. (hint: he was.)

General rule: it's the pile of crap which makes it possible to do art on its top.

I usually hear a variation of that: "it's the crappy jobs that pay the rent" from which it is inferred that you do art on your free time, even if your are an artist.

[darkbutflashy]

In the cartoon they spent so much time doing "oooh"s and "aaah"s that it felt like watching a slow motion climax build up between narcissistic body builders.

You are not alone.

I usually hear a variation of that: "it's the crappy jobs that pay the rent" from which it is inferred that you do art on your free time, even if your are an artist.

That's not what I meant. It's not the individual artist who has this problem but the merchandise industry as a whole. The more art, the less sales, though there are exceptions.