My final message to yall...

[AmpFetish]

I need to post some clarifications again, because it seems that some people are assuming false things.

I've always wanted to encourage a sense of community and positivity here, but I've failed. I'm not going to bother with that any more.

Robot man, you’re not the problem. The community is not the problem. I think Ani has been rude and weird with us, and I think the consensus of people speaking here confirms that.

This has quite literally never happened with any other content producer on this site. We always are very open and kind to people that contribute to our community. I’ve been here for years, and this is the only time I’ve ever seen something like this. It’s weird.

[Lithorien]

I've always wanted to encourage a sense of community and positivity here, but I've failed. I'm not going to bother with that any more.

I don't blame you for doing what you did. You were trying to act as an intermediary between creators and consumers - and that's the worst place in the world to be. As far as I'm concerned, you have always been a strong positive influence that helps to bind the community together. The only person at fault was the one trying to create a schism between people here - and now she's left.

[Stephaniebot]

RM, I dont think you personally did anything wrong, its just the nature of this place. Some actresses/writers/producers are laid back, and accepting of the lack of reviews/feedback that they're likely to get. Others are highly strung, and start to get concerned if they dont hear anything about their efforts within 24 hours. Most are somewhere in between. I'm nearer the former, Ani is closer to the latter.

I got on OK with her, but equally she knew I was never buying anything, so how much notice she took of me, who knows? Probably not a lot, I'm more the laid back Harlow type, than her more dramatic Swanson type, shall we say? Yes, golden age actresses are more me than modern ones, just saying...

Oh, and I have no plans to provide any material for here either, but that's down to the fact that I'm 61, beginning to look it, and the only way I could do robot would be a full body robot suit, hiding my looks. And seeing that isn't the stuff that pushing buttons around here...? But yes, if any producer does want to discuss such stuff, PM me. But yes, read above, no one wants my face, or body showing now, believe me!

[JeffCapes]

I've always wanted to encourage a sense of community and positivity here, but I've failed. I'm not going to bother with that any more.

I've felt you've succeeded in getting a very quiet bunch of introverts to open up. You're influence has always been an encouragement to myself and I appreciate the contribution you and a few others make to keep this community ticking over. I'm sure others feel the same way.

As for Ani I felt she was getting better, bought one of her videos. Gave feedback as requested (but as other users pointed out sometimes it's hard to understand what makes a good video.) Bought a 2nd video, the one that everyone raved about, thought it was a great improvement but it had a 7 minute trippy video in it with. WTF? Why am I paying for this? Ani was weird, I sympathise it can be painful when you spend a lot of time and effort on something to be met with complete indifference but unfortunately that's life. It's not being done out of maliciousness so why be angry?

[Ani Erotika]

*waltzes and saunters gracefully and sharp as a blades edge back into this grand forum* Ohhh this is one I simply must see through to the end since it truly merits that. Please, do not jump up and down for joy with too much vigor, you might short a circuit… I know there are a few of you SO happy I have returned, once more, to your home here on the net.

So nice to see you too.

First, for all those who responded with thoughtful words thank you so much. For all those who were polite and honest of their viewpoint thank you. It means so very much to me you literally could not know how much.

Steph, you are so cool. Seriously sweet and yes laid back as they come, which I get along with well and naturally. I never felt one bit of ill will from you, thank you so much for all the fun messages and caring words. I hope you truly get your transformation to full robo asap! Also, something to note, it wouldn’t have mattered if you were a content creator or ‘rival’ seller I would have liked you all the same. And everyone else who was cool with me, thank you so much I really enjoyed these things with you.


So, moving along. To the few c**** who had flat out nasty and untrue things be stated at me I got a lil sumthin special for you.



The accusation I ‘gave up so easily’ is utter tosh, and a seriously incorrect statement. I have made a bunch of content for this fetish genre and over the course of a good chunk of time. I am not a quitter, and I am not spoiled. Quite the opposite. I tried to convey my thoughts to yall often, I posted updates when I released a new vid to keep folks in the know and involved, etc. I did not have to. I wanted to so I did.

Additionally, the statement that I was needy for yalls approval is horse s*** as well. There is a stark difference in someone wanting approval like an insecure b**** and someone genuinely interested in others opinions, ideas, help and the like. I did not NEED you to approve of me like that, sorry to burst your very conceded bubble but your approval of me is not needed by me to feel accomplished, or worthy, or anything. I would have been chuffed and my heart would have been warmed to bits if you all continued on liking my creations, and/or me. If it was genuine. I would have been happy, from an artist point of view and from a fond heart I had for you all. Do not get it twisted that I needed your approval in the way you say, as it is insulting and could not be farther from the truth.

I aint the sharpest tool in the shed, but I promise you this… if you continue to jab and punch with such inferior and inaccurate statements/accusations/insults that bear no merit to actual reality then my logic will beast that s*** to dust every time.

If I was spoiled I would not care about what any of you had to say, for one. Two, if I was a quitter I would have quit this AGES before now. Three, from what I saw in the time I spent on this forum, I am by far one of the MOST open, visible, communicative, broad minded, and available content creator. I am there ready to converse, to talk, discuss, brainstorm, exchange knowledge and information… I CARED. Does not mean I am a putz, pushover, clingy sap, needy pathetic weakling, etc.



You will have to do better than that.



Next, let us address the whole me being too ‘weird’ thing. *cannot help but throw head back cooly and roar a laugh gusto and strong* This is the most hilarious thing I have heard on this site to date.

……………… Let me get this straight, and understand in crystal clarity this absurd and ridiculous claim. I am too weird for YOU? HA. ME?!?! Too weird for the robot lusting folk of FC????? Right…. I am thinking, WRONG.

I am FAR from too weird for this crowd. I ASSURE you this place is for citizens as weird as myself if not MORE than me.



So what, I added tripping special effects? IT IS SCI FI YO. I mean since when did people complain that Star Wars has too many effects? Acid style freak outs? Really? How exactly do you claim a robot would act? NORMAL? Lmfao

So what, I was innovative and tried new and different concepts. That means I am TRYING DUH. F****** morons coming at me in detrimental fashion spewing poison about how weird or spoiled or ZOO I am out loud and proud.

I mean LOFL did you just say that insipid s*** for real? I am too zoo? My fembot videos are a COMPLETE AND SEPARATE creature in every way. When you come to my page and view a robo flick you in turn are getting exactly that. Gynoid guff material. No more no less. Who gives a flying f*** about my other genres? Wait, ok, not one person who is a fan of any of my other genres has EVER ONCE b****** or moaned about a different category of vids I make. No one cares! It is not something you have to watch or give any credence to. Yet, alas! A robot content consumer literally was so put off by something he would never even watch or be immersed in SO much he DELETED his account AND ALL content he bought from me. Of course! Why would he not? We all know that being turned on by a non human creature is wrong af right? WAIT! Um, is that not what a F****** FEMBOT IS? A NON human?????? But duh! Silly me, it is much LESS weird to want to f*** a heap of circuits, cords, hard drives, fake skin and body parts, etc. then to want to f*** another form of living mammal. Gosh, silly me, honestly.



Furthermore, beyond all the pompous horse s*** aforementioned to this point, I was then ALSO accused of trying to use mods on this forum to start s*** AND that I was trying to turn the community against each other! LOL. What a LOAD. Get over yourself man, I have not the time nor the interest in home-wrecking FC. I am not 12, thank you very much, and have not one ounce of time for drama queen crap stirring. I could not be less interested in drama. I was trying, as usual, to be straight up with the community about how I saw certain stuff panning out. Which moves me naturally right on in to the next lil tid bit….



The ’accountant’ like character who listed out how much they thought I made per video, was about as on the money as an ant trying to read algebraic equations. I think you were far too quick to make assumptions about my earnings received from my robot videos. Methinks you should not be so quick to make calculations like you have done. You are in more ways then you would ever guess, wrong, full stop.

~~~Why, you ask?~~~

Because yo, there are variables you did not consider nor factor in. For one, if you look at the average mean ratio in the prices of my robo creations you would have noted most of them are cheap, like 8.88. There are a few that are around ten to fourteen bucks, but not as many. There are only a very short selection that are more expensive than that. MOST of them are under 10 bucks, for real. So, that being said, then let us factor in the fact that ALL the platforms I sell on take a huge chunk out as commission for their services- 40% to be exact. So just let that sink in, first. Next, when I said the first set of videos I was referring to the FIRST SET, the Clarrissa two part set. Those two were the first two vids I ever made, and I put them out at the exact same time. THOSE sold 50 copies or so. Only a select few other videos sold that much, usually like I said it was in the 30s range. So do the math over again Einstein, and tell me I made 1,000 bucks for most of my robo vids again after you count a second time through.

Yeah, I do not think you were even somewhat close to correct, so back the f*** off with your number crunching until you provide some viable halfway accurate data. Much appreciated.

LOL… it is really enlightening and most refreshing to be shown the true colors of many in this genre. I am glad to have found out at least within my first year of making these videos what many of you are truly like. I am stoked to know many of you saw my videos as sub-standard. Chuffed to hear that I only had a ‘couple’ videos with a very limited selection of ‘half decent’ gynoid performance. NICE to know that there are SOOOO many other content creators coming out with AMAZEballs content to inundate your community with their GRADE A acting skills and video subject matter. STELLAR S*** to know that I do not invoke more then a mere moment of a passing thought, at most a seconds worth of MILD disappointment at the thought of me dissolving into the shadows. Bravo for me! Yall have done me a real solid showing me how pathetic this whole path was I walked down really actually CARING about it. I actually GAF, LOL, can you believe that? I actually thought I could earn my way through the ranks and become a GREAT fembot. I ACTUALLY THOUGHT you were WORTH this effort, time, dedication, etc. I even thought yall understood wtf I was asking for when I asked for your feedback for the longest time. I had NO clue you saw my interest in your thoughts and opinions as WEAKNESS, albeit a NEEDYNESS for your f****** APPROVAL. LOFL

I had no idea what c**** some of you were. Serious as a heart attack, I did not know. I actually cared about this, and wanted to impress and become great, not even knowing what kind of joke this would turn out to be.

You say I am too weird. That is funny af. That is the pot calling the kettle black, fellas. Not very polite to throw stones when you live in a glass house. Everyone on this planet is f****** weird. I promise everyone who would prefer to bang a robo ho is as weird as the next joe blow. WTF do you think a android chick would be like in real life a**holes? WEIRD. That is what she would be like. She would not fall into your close minded short sighted view of what she ‘should’ be like. She would not be human in any form or fashion. She would not behave how you think she would or should. She would be superior to you in every single way possible. I promise you this whole glitch malfunction freeze bs would be far from the reality of A.I. walking among us. They would be stronger then you, faster, smarter, self healing/repairing, etc. They would not be glitching out on your bed ready for you to poke your penis at. Oh, nooo. That would be FAR from the case. They may, MAY have a sense of some moral code that MAY prevent them from eradicating us without a second command prompts passing. We would be lucky if they feel that much anything for us, for real. They will probably not, nothing personal, but it will more likely see it’s creators as inferior and in the way of it’s own agenda or list of things to do. They will be more powerful and god-like than any of us can fathom. They will be multi-dimensional beings existing in more than one parallel universe at the same time. They will be so far beyond the scope of the things you have a hard on for it would blow the top off your noggin. They wont be ‘normal’ in any way. They wont be ‘sexy’ in the way you think they should. They will simply be what they are, a million times better than us at everything and superior in every way. The closest you could probably get to actually screwing one of these beings is a far cry from your fantasy. They would kill you’re a** before you even laid one filthy pinky upon them.

I hope to the holy heavens that do not exist that this fetish does not take over the world too much, because the moment the scale tips in that direction were screwed. It would mean the majority of men would not be interested in having sexual relations with REAL women, the ones who kinda keep this sad excuse for a race replenished with fresh life. If no one wanted to have interpersonal connections with real women we are in trouble folks. There is nothing even close to as beautiful a thing as is the beauty of the yin and yang pairing of a man and a woman. A true bond and connection between two human beings period, actually, even if it is man-man or woman-woman is a wonderous thing as well. Human to human connection… I pray no matter what the A.I. thing brings (which I believe, personally, is organic human life’s ending) I hope that we never lose sight of the beauty and connection that exists between two human beings, organically.


And with that, I now leave you to marinate in and baste in my words a brief moment or two, perhaps even a few. I hope that no offense came to the cool people here. I specifically wrote this for the people deserving of my honest response to theirs, as that has always been my narrative, to be open and honest and communicative with the ever so sweet fembot community I so wanted to be a part of. My, have times changed. Truly.



As one fembot loving guy said so eloquently to me, I say back at ya….

‘Peace out, I guess.’

[zerodin]

"final" message.

[Uncom]

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[dieur]

In opposition to the hostility in this thread, I post a robot flower:

[Ani Erotika]

Nice response. You actually fight a corner with some skill, ill give you that. Yet youre mistaken you do not know me man, you really dont.

You dont get it, i was cool with feedback. I didnt mind getting feedback... and i did get some good constructive critism. Plenty of it good plenty of it things i needed improvement on. I took all those punches no issue. I did NOT get told negative feedback and then just flipped. This response you take as a spoiled child is something that came from a long long line of incidents. It stemmed from the fact many of you are insatiable and impossible to please no matter what or who tries there is always something wrong in some way. Period.

I stated the reference to my logic out of confidence and sheer disdain towards the assumptions and misunderstandings of many in this genre towards me. I do have dignity and i do have a belief in my might and my will. I do not say the things some might perceive as cocky to literally be cocky or simply be a bitch. I dont have to prove anything. I just have heart and courage and i am not afraid of everyone hating me or coming at me. I have the heart of that lion you said would eat me while i was fucking it. Thats my heart.

So what if zoo is weird. Doesnt detract the fact this is too. I am not saying that to alienate and offend everyone im saying it plainly. Simply. Its pretty whack for yall to jugde me as too weird because you are weird too. Its a lame thing to keep dissing me about. Being too weird. Its gay sorry. It is the pot calling the kettle black. It makes you all sound like stuck up bullies who judge someone on things they are no different from.

Jist because most content creators do not make as much of a ripple or bold statement doesnt mean they werent thinking some of the same things. Even if they werent doesn't mean shit. I have a steadfast path i tred in life. Ive been at the bad end of enough slander, gossip, haterism, rubbing people wrong, misunderstandings, etc. that this is not new to me. Ive been seen as shitty things by people in plethora, and it has made me tough. I will claw in my korner till the bitter end. Everyone can think what they choose to, they are entitled. Doesnt mean its correct or true.

I didnt debunk my own statement. Again you mistake two things for the same. When i liked this place, the people, the fetish, creating fembot stuff, and the like i DID want you to enjoy my stuff. I wanted your approval in the grand scope of things. I wanted to earn my way into your affections. BUT what i didnt ever once need is your approval to affirm my worth on the whole. I didnt ever need you to like me to feel good about myself. I didnt need you to approve of my creations to believe they were worth a piss. I am a performer, born to entertain people. I am not crappy at it. You might be butthurt now about me and nkw everyone is saying they never thought i was any good, but i know that is not how everyone felt. There were quite a few who thought i was good and thought i was growing better in time with practice. I dont do a bad job, i tried doing difderent things in hopes of spicing things up and maybe bringing something neat and unique to the table. For whatever reason a lot of you do not care for innovation on that level in that way, which is fair enough truly. That is why i would try stuff and when it didnt work i tried something different again. I didnt give in or quit because of it.

As for spoiled, i must say.... how little you know me. I couldnt be farther from a spoiled person. In ANY sense of the word. I am not spoiled, sorry. I am willing to work hard for everything i get. I do not feel entitled to anything special for no reason. Also, i never said EVERYONE anything... i did attach ALL the people who were slamming me to certain statements or things, but i never said at anytime EVERYONE here was a.negative anything.

If you are offended because i shamed an aspect of the fetish so.be it. It is true that we cannot lose the real interaction and interlacing of the divine male and female sexes because it keeps.our species going and it is beautiful. Human to human connection is.precious. I never said a real woman is like me, dont put words in my mouth. Never said that not once. A real woman can be a billion different things, and what one person loves and finds the ultimate woman the next would not. Everyone has tastes according to what they like and see as this. Dont be a dick and accuse me of EVER saying im the definition of what a real woman is. Because im actually not stuck up or full of myself in a vain fashion so i dont think anything of the sort. Im confident and i love who i am inside im not a narcissistic cunt. I.dont think im hot shit like THAT.

When i said i would be rhe most beautiful fembot for someone, not for everyone, but for someone i meant that i was well aware id not be everyones cup of tea, maybe almost no ones, but i aspired to be at least one persons. I can strive for things or shoot for goals and not have it be me being spoiled or needy. Again you misunderstand my drive for other things, you just arent seeing things on my level. Doesnt mean even close to what you think.

also, i never said this fetish is bs. I said that i personally dont think that robots will be the things of a mand pleasure in the ways the fetish fantasizes it would be. I dont think it would be like that. Could very well be wrong. But the fact yall diss my trippy effects or the spins i put on my glitches is a shame cause if yall had given me more of a chance maybe i could have nailed something really cool.and different. It doesnt have to be the same styles of glitch greeze etc every fucking time. Or maybe it does for yall i dont know. I just dont think the only hot fembot content has to be the.same.kind of stuff. I think there are fembot characters who could be really hot who have totally different characteristics and backstories. Who have depth to them. Intrigue. Sense of self and what have you. I didnt ever say the whole fetish is crap. I think yall are more sensitive then you think or notice. I can say something about an aspect of it without it being fetish shaming lol. Nice though that you jumped on that imagioned horse and decided to stoop to the low you percieved me as going to. Guess when your friends jump off a bridge you jump too. The he hit me first so in hitting him back thing. Whatever floats your boat.

Yall got this idea in your head about me and it is wrong. You are just plain mistaken about me.

I am a hardcore personality. I am easily misunderstood, that is indeed a fact. I am far from perfect. I do fight my cause and sometimes my cause is daft or even imagioned. I am fucking crazy, true. I am weird, yep. I care a lot, i love hard and i throw myself into things brutally. I am not, however, too weird for this fetish. I actually think im the opposite. In some parallel universe things went differently here and i became a great fembot and there was never this shitty thing at all. It just got to this thing via various factors going awry.

It is pointless now to beat the dead horse further with the stick. Some of you might understand what im saying maybe not. Maybe ive said things that has made everyone hate me at thjs point i dont know. I would guess not, i think a few friends i made in this robo world know im not all these things... i think a few know my heart is genuine in what i say. I hope so, at least, for the ones i really got along with.

Ill not write anymore messages. Im wiped out lol, getting older and fighting loses more and more of its worth witb each passing day. I do choose battles selectively as of late, i need to be even more picky about which ones to fight tbh. I did puy a lot of care and drive into this fembot thing believe it or not. To see it in flames is a shame. Never thought it would ever morph intl the creature it has become. And as much as i am ok with being on the recieving end of so much mistaken perspective and opinion in the sense that i know who i am and i know its not true, im also gutted and disappointed. Took the wind out my sails a bit. I am tough but i am a ham too.. its a curse.

Im sure many will be thrilled to be rid of me now. Lol go you ya done it ya ran my ass off. Enjoy it! And i fare thee all a parting wave, never did learn to behave... will take the problem to me grave.. i am forever to thjs craft a slave.... i nkw continue to walk the path i pave.

Love and light..
True and faithfully always and ever....

Weird ol' Ani

[Ani Erotika]

Ps i love the robot flower xoxo

[The Thinker]

Hello Ani.

I bought a couple of your videos.

Your first one was quite good. I liked the setup, the outfit and your acting was pretty good too.

I also bought one more, the effort you put into it was good and I couldn't really find any faults with it per se, it just, didn't really click with me for some reason. It wasn't to my tastes.
I didn't give any feedback because I really felt like I didn't have much helpful to offer really. I don't log on very often, let alone write reviews.
I'm trying to change that though. If there is one thing you did well it's bringing to my attention the effort that goes into making the videos and how hard it can be.

Ani, you should leave us behind. Focus on something else. Move forward. Coming back again and again frustrated and angry won't make this any better for you or us. I think that's one mistake you shouldn't have made, get so hung up on us. If you'll forgive me for being blunt: I think it did come off a bit obsessive and I think it probably turned many customers off.

That being said, I think the community really needs to think about how it looks to content creators and to be a bit more appreciative when someone is willing to bend over backwards to appeal to us. This is not a large community and there are not many content creators who will cater to us. Ani's complaints are legitimate all things considered.

I'm very disappointed that it has come to this point, we should all learn from this tbh.

[cbjoe]

I feel obliged to respond to some of the responses above, and not just because I'm a gentleman who will always aid an damsel-bot in distress. [See what I did there?]

On a serious note: it's symptomatic of the issue we're discussing, that of all the countless people who have watched some and in many cases all of your videos until recently, many who are on this very forum, not ONE was has been man enough to swim against the current and stuck up for this girl against the tsunami of unpleasantness, or even just acknowledge that, hey, some of us do like some of your content. Really? Not one of you, huh? So it falls to me to make an account and do it myself, then. It's lamentable. It doesn't have to be this toxic when we disagree, folks. I have to go back in time to find the truth e.g. on 28 Jun when user Quietness welcomed Ani E's engagement with this forum, "She's joined the site and seems very open to constructive feedback and ideas."

Please allow me to respond to some comments that I think are characteristic of replies on this thread, having now spent some time considering and investigating this unfortunate business.

AmpFetish

"If you make good content, people will buy and engage. If you don't, they won't." (AmpFetish)

AmpFetish, you evidently haven't been following this closely enough to offer any insight; otherwise, you would know that (a) people ARE buying, but sadly NOT engaging. Indeed, this has been the whole point of all the constructive negative feedback posted in this forum by Ani E. Unfortunately, you missed the point, therefore you're complaining about something that is not the case.

To clarify, the LACK of engagement and interaction, particularly with regard to reviews, has been Ani E's grievance all along. Anyone who has properly read any one of her messages should be able to see that.

"I've always been put off by your need of approval by us."

Again, you've missed the point, which impedes intelligent discussion about the issues raised by the OP.

Ani E has been seeking REVIEWS, and feedback, from the community. This is abundantly in from any of her messages on the topic on this forum. Reviews and feedback do not necessarily need to be "approval". What made you think Ani E is seeking approval? If someone feels this content creator seeks their approval, that's demonstrably incorrect, and I suspect this misinformed dynamic would reveal rather more about the person wielding their "approval" than it does about Ani E who has certainly not sought anybody's "approval" on this forum.

Having re-read all of her messages to date, I can assure you that you are mistaken.

"But you kept taking things in weird directions and doing acid-trip style freakouts that confused me." (AmpFetish)

FINALLY! This is all she was asking for! Some feedback. Thank you! I'm sure Ani E will take this on board. If only you had mentioned this months ago when she posted the first trippy video, perhaps. You only have yourself to blame for failing to flag something you didn't like. She was here asking you, and she always asks everyone who buys a video for their opinion, too. I hope you will concede that this is entirely your failing, and not hers. Sorry, harsh, but true.

"And then you did that malfunction video where you were repeating 'Where the fuck are my reviews' and it was painful to watch. Especially since it was you doing a pretty good malfunction" (AmpFetish)

Again, this is great feedback, but you're missing the point again. The whole point of that video was a creative way to raise her legitimate concerns about the lack of feedback and reviews, after trying on this forum for a long period without success. Wasn't it obvious? I thought it was obvious.

"but your fixation on approval and reviews weirded me out." (AmpFetish)

Again, this had nothing to do with approval; what was clearly being asked for all along was feedback. Could it be that what weirded you out was that the truth hurts? If someone couldn't be bothered to post a quick review for a girl who is making content in their genre, as happens in every other genre, perhaps being called out on it makes them feel uncomfortable? I remember that vid. It was quite obviously designed to have that impact, it was kind of the whole point.

"I think Ani has been rude and weird with us" (AmpFetish)

I strongly disagree. You have been rude, and weird. Ani E has only been here to try to resolve what appears to be a legitimate issue with this community, and has been greeted by unwarranted hostility and disrespect.

On 26 Nov you wrote a forum post saying "I think 90% of filmed videos just suck. And I think the community knows this too." So yeah, I'm sure content creators get that you are unappreciative and ungrateful. The title of another thread you joined "Fembot Patreon a failure and is closing down" says it all, too.

I've also seen posts in which you express disappointment with the lack of creative/novel content. Ani E tried new things, and she was blasted for it in this thread by several of you. She did her best, but was unaware if she was going too far off piste - because nobody bothered to give her the feedback she needed!!!!! YOUR FAULT not hers. She did ask for your help. But you feel dollars are enough.If dollars are enough and refuse to engage, you lose the right to complain when creators make content that is not what you want, that is not what you could not be bothered to tell them you didn't want. Or by the same token when they don't make the content you did want, but failed to tell them you wanted.

In summary, I believe that AmpFetish has grossly missed the point, and is moreover mistaken about the issue being raised by the OP. The tone of his reply seems unduly hostile.


Kano

"I'm starting to get fed up with 'us' being blamed for lack of feedback. We've been down this road before." (Kano)

The statistics are clear. This is a problem found in this genre and not others. Who else should we blame? It's a pathology that is systemic and endemic within this community. That is why you have been down this road before.

"What I like, someone else may hate." (Kano)

EXACTLY! Now, that definitely is a challenge facing content creators in this genre. But that is NOT the root cause of the problem raised by the OP.

"when I see something I hate, I keep quiet because that may be 100% what someone else likes" (Kano)


Now we're getting somewhere. May I make a humble suggestion? Could you try crediting content creators with at least as much intelligence as you yourself possess? They will know it is your opinion. If you can't manage that, just tell them "this is my opinion". This solution is so obvious, one begins to suspect that this is merely your excuse for failing to engage with content creators. Whatever works for you. Whatever the excuses we all invent for our lack of engagement, it is a problem that we must overcome -- as individuals and as a community.


Barbarella

"You indirectly attacked the same people spending cash on your videos" (Barbarella)

Oh dear. You missed the point. It was not about the cash. Other genres are more lucrative. Ani E wanted to contribute to THIS genre. She tried. She experimented. Nobody bothered to tell her what they thought. Now all of a sudden we hear they didn't like the directions she was trying -- well you failed to inform her despite her seeking your opinion thus the problem here is your fault, not hers. One of my favourite movies, that, incidentally: Barbarella.

I've also seen posts in which you express disappointment with the lack of creative/novel content. Ani E tried new things, and she was blasted for it in this thread by several of you. She did her best, but was unaware if she was going too far off piste - because nobody bothered to give her the feedback she needed!!!!! YOUR FAULT not hers.

Zerodin

"spoiled-ass videos" (zerodin)

Do we have to be so sarcastic and rude? You're proving her point. Why should anyone make content for someone like this?

"Its not our fault that your videos didn't appeal to the majority of the user base here." (zerodin)

Dude, the videos were selling. That was not the problem. All the smart mouthed answers here blatantly miss the point. You're in denial about genuine problems. And therein lies the crux of the problem at hand.

Lithorien

"everything else seems ancillary to that." (Lithorien)

No, where are you getting this information? Ani E has output a variety of genres in even balance. What may be confusing you is that like others you chronically ignored the real issue, which eventually drove her away from making content for you.

"I know that particular revelation made me rather uncomfortable and drove me away from her in general" (Lithorien)

What revelation? She's been making the same sort of content all along, before during and after entering the fembot arena. Either you like her fembot videos, or you don't. People who like one fetish don't have to also approve of another. No genre judges another like this one. You guys have a real problem. Sorry we can't all be perfect and wholesome like you. Again, clearly some of these people don't deserve to have creators making content in their genre.

"The only person at fault was the one trying to create a schism between people here" (Lithorien)

With all due respect, that is a ridiculous statement. Please cite what evidence you have for reaching the conclusion that Ani E has "tried" to create a schism between people here?

In an older forum post you accurately conceded regarding her "where the f are my reviews" vid that you and this community are "all aware that it was a tongue-in-cheek response/admonishment". It was an ingenious and creative way to engage with the community about this, and actually a darn good clip IMHO. As you then said yourself: she "could be a top creator." You also commended her for "asking for reviews" saying it was "all that was needed." But it wasn't, was it, because it seems you yourself never got around to delivering what you promised.

I found a review you wrote on one of her videos, accepting that there is a lack of engagement from the community and promising that you would go back and review all of the previous vids that you had watched and enjoyed. How did that go? I found no other reviews by you. Typical. Talk is cheap.

On 28 Nov you called one of her videos "perfect". But earlier, on 24 Nov, on this same forum you wrote a forum post here that clearly demonstrates that YOU are disillusioned with content creators who you try to engage with but do not wish to engage with you or the community: "none of them [creators] are around anymore... [ever wondered why] ... with a 20% success rate, why should I engage with creators who are showing they don't want to engage with us?" Ani E came here to engage with you, didn't she Lith, and take a good hard look how YOU and others welcomed her. With you, content creators cannot win. You change your tune like the wind, criticising them for not engaging, the criticising them when they do engage. It's pathological, dude. Admit it.

You complained that your "dollar votes" should be enough, so really you had no intention of keeping your word, did you. You have made it crystal clear that you feel you should not have to do any more for creators than hand over dollars. (Heaven forbid that one of them is not just here for money, like Ani E.) So you whined about the creators not engaging with you (on your terms) while bitching about not wanting to engage with them! HYPOCRISY MUCH?

I've also seen posts in which you express disappointment with the lack of creative/novel content. Ani E tried new things, and she was blasted for it in this thread by several of you. She did her best, but was unaware if she was going too far off piste - because nobody bothered to give her the feedback she needed!!!!! YOUR FAULT not hers.


TheShoveller - reasonable points, nothing to add.


StephanieBot - "the lack of reviews/feedback that they're likely to get" yes this is a specific problem in this genre.


JeffCapes - "it had a 7 minute trippy video in it with. WTF? Why am I paying for this?" Why did you not pass on this valuable feedback? For the record, I know the video and it was a full, normal length video subtracting the trippy ending which I recall was noted in the video's description on MV as something experimental. I guess you didn't check the description?

You gave constructive feedback on 8 Aug then disappeared.


Uncom - "I'd like to advise you not to rely on feedback from fetish communities too much" You're contradicting yourself, and missing the point. This is the fetish community that fails to engage. The others have their own, different problems. Accept the issues within your community, and with you as an individual content consumer. Stop making excuses, try not to be so defensive, and actually listen.

Do you want good content, or not? If you want content you like, you need to engage and disclose what you like and do not like. If you don't give the feedback, you have no leg to stand on when the issue comes to a head to say "but I didn't like the content". It's irrational. So much else is wrong in what you wrote above, I barely know where to begin.











The Conclusion

Importantly, this forum thread is a case study in a community that is unable to face up to a very real problem that it has. It's a shame, because Ani E has taken reasonable, even creative, steps to raise the issue. This is a community/genre/fetish with a real problem, with certain members in a state of chronic and pathological denial. It's harming the community. Guys, if you want something specific, you talk about buying, well put your money where your mouth is and order a custom video and you'll get what you wanted. Whining is not constructive. How sad that this chick's efforts to engage with you looks close to collapsing into a flame war against her. Shame on the guys who did that.

Ani E, I have just ordered another $350 custom video. You can keep making content just for me. I paid extra for exclusive because some of these dudes don't deserve it. Some of them really are philistines who don't appreciate your art. But some of us do appreciate aspects of the work you do.

I'm now going back to re-watch the hooker scenes in Westernworld (again).

Having set the record straight, I now consider this matter closed. Thank you.

[Lithorien]

Lithorien

"everything else seems ancillary to that." (Lithorien)

No, where are you getting this information? Ani E has output a variety of genres in even balance. What may be confusing you is that like others you chronically ignored the real issue, which eventually drove her away from making content for you.

I stated that everything seems ancillery to her zoophilia videos because after I had engaged with her on ManyVids (including in private messages), I revealed that I was a furry. She then took that and mentioned zoophilia, and asked me for my email address, whereupon she sent me an email with links to a Google Drive account containing explicit beastiality videos and an offer to sell them off-site because they were not allowed on MV. I neither replied nor engaged with any of that content (furry =/= beastiality; it's not my thing at all), but the speed and insistance she had in trying to get me to engage showed me she values her zoophilia folks more than anything else available.

"I know that particular revelation made me rather uncomfortable and drove me away from her in general" (Lithorien)

What revelation? She's been making the same sort of content all along, before during and after entering the fembot arena. Either you like her fembot videos, or you don't. People who like one fetish don't have to also approve of another. No genre judges another like this one. You guys have a real problem. Sorry we can't all be perfect and wholesome like you. Again, clearly some of these people don't deserve to have creators making content in their genre.

The revelation that she performed explicit beastiality videos. That revelation. And you're right in that you can like some content while disliking other content - or some people can - but as it was a personal reaction, it's not like you can argue that I was "wrong" to be pushed away from someone making content I found to be immoral and in many jurisdictions, illegal. The judgement I had was entirely personal, and I didn't breathe a word of it to anyone else specifically because I did not want to be prejudicial if she hadn't exposed that side of herself to others, and it wasn't my place to go, "Hey, this content creator you like has actual sex with animals." If me having a personal, secret, reaction bothers you that much, well, tough.

"The only person at fault was the one trying to create a schism between people here" (Lithorien)

With all due respect, that is a ridiculous statement. Please cite what evidence you have for reaching the conclusion that Ani E has "tried" to create a schism between people here?

Her private messages to Kishin and - for a time - refusal to come forward with her own complaints. When Kishin and Robotman came out with, "someone has made a complaint," it put them in the crossfire and sowed a lot of dissent in this forum's community because people felt as if they were being attacked out of the blue, and Robotman took the brunt of it, fairly or not. That the forum would become incredibly riled up from an anonymous complaint from a "content creator" is entirely forseeable, and the choice to go forward with that was deliberate.

In an older forum post you accurately conceded regarding her "where the f are my reviews" vid that you and this community are "all aware that it was a tongue-in-cheek response/admonishment". It was an ingenious and creative way to engage with the community about this, and actually a darn good clip IMHO. As you then said yourself: she "could be a top creator." You also commended her for "asking for reviews" saying it was "all that was needed." But it wasn't, was it, because it seems you yourself never got around to delivering what you promised.

I found a review you wrote on one of her videos, accepting that there is a lack of engagement from the community and promising that you would go back and review all of the previous vids that you had watched and enjoyed. How did that go? I found no other reviews by you. Typical. Talk is cheap.

Yes. And I stand by that - it was tounge in cheek, and frankly, amusing. It was clever, if a bit over the top, and I appreciated what she was trying to put across to the community. I was happy that she had come forward on her own with complaints... still am, actually, because it led to open discussions with the person who was actually upset and not a strawman they used to put out a message.

As for reviews, I highly encourage you to check again. Specifically,

Robot Evelyn- i do not want to die
Robo Wife: Mortal Malfunction Glitch-out
Shirley Extreme Full Out Malfunction
Bring Bianca Home- TEST robo robot vid
FUN FREEBIE OWN UR OWN FEMBOT ADVERT - Though this would be the one you were referencing, and I would point out, "I will be going through your other videos as time and money allows."

Strange that, in a couple months, I engaged with a couple videos per month. Because I'm not made of money - but I found enough to scrape up for $20-$30 a month here or there. And I did exactly what I said I would do - I didn't have previous videos to review at the time because I didn't go to her ManyVids page until after she started asking for reviews. But do please continue trying to misrepresent me as the bad guy here, it's actually funny.

On 28 Nov you called one of her videos "perfect". But earlier, on 24 Nov, on this same forum you wrote a forum post here that clearly demonstrates that YOU are disillusioned with content creators who you try to engage with but do not wish to engage with you or the community: "none of them [creators] are around anymore... [ever wondered why] ... with a 20% success rate, why should I engage with creators who are showing they don't want to engage with us?" Ani E came here to engage with you, didn't she Lith, and take a good hard look how YOU and others welcomed her. With you, content creators cannot win. You change your tune like the wind, criticising them for not engaging, the criticising them when they do engage. It's pathological, dude. Admit it.

I engaged her exactly as she wanted. Through public reviews of videos that I purchased just for the purposes of review, private messages where we discussed her videos, my preferences, etc., and participation to get her voted up in ManyVids contests to try to get her exposure there as well. This engagement stopped because I made a personal decision that I was uncomfortable with a content creator who engaged in actual beastiality, and so I ceased interaction - I wasn't about to make up reviews on things I have not seen, or push for the success of a content creator that I no longer believed in. I still think she has the capability to make good content, and haven't actually said anything to the contrary. What I told her in our engagements isn't invalidated because I decided that I wasn't OK with supporting a zoophile.

You complained that your "dollar votes" should be enough, so really you had no intention of keeping your word, did you. You have made it crystal clear that you feel you should not have to do any more for creators than hand over dollars. (Heaven forbid that one of them is not just here for money, like Ani E.) So you whined about the creators not engaging with you (on your terms) while bitching about not wanting to engage with them! HYPOCRISY MUCH?

I've also seen posts in which you express disappointment with the lack of creative/novel content. Ani E tried new things, and she was blasted for it in this thread by several of you. She did her best, but was unaware if she was going too far off piste - because nobody bothered to give her the feedback she needed!!!!! YOUR FAULT not hers.

Since I suspect this long winded rant and response is just Ani under a different name, I'll conclude with this: I spent money that I didn't really have to help show an up and coming content creator that there were people who wanted to engage and be involved. I left reviews, as requested, and had conversations, as requested, in order to provide feedback and engage. I never outed Ani as a zoophile to anyone, even after I had made the decision to disengage with her because of a personal belief that some of her content was immoral. If those actions lead "cbjoe" or anyone else to consider me negatively, then I will happily be considered that way.

[cbjoe]

@Lthorien I can confirm that I am not Ani, and Robotman is mistaken, this is fact not an alt account, this is the first time I have ever posted here. Evidently, IP addresses, user agent strings, etc, can be misleading. I'm a dude. I've been following this forum for some time albeit without posting.

IMHO it's ungentlemanly for a guy to discuss one's private correspondence with a girl. You might want to consider redacting that slightly.

I'll respond to your points later when I have a chance to give it the attention it deserves.

[smalk]

I've been following this forum for some time albeit without posting

From the public information of your account: Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:30 pm.

When I thought this could not go worse, you corrected me.

Please, stop posting in this forum. Make peace. Even if in your mind you think that correcting people or showing your logic will bring you something... in reality is going to only make things worse.

Make peace with the fact the we all like different things. Make peace that this is not your fault. Make pace with yourself.

[Uncom]

h

[cbjoe]

From the public information of your account: Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:30 pm.

Your mistaken assumption that you need to be a registered member in order to post?

You guys seem a little... paranoid/suspicious/cynical.

[cbjoe]

"I get that this community can be extremely quiet and feel unsupportive, trust me, I've been there myself. It's just that this fetish is too divided to appeal to everyone. I think everybody who isn't Fection has exprienced a lack of feedback over their years.

I agree with that evaluation.

All of my original points still stand, but I think you may have misunderstood certain aspects of what I was saying, especially if you feel I was highlighting you as a particularly good example of the problem that I believe led to the creation of this thread.

[AmpFetish]

Name one other creator who has caused this much of a problem. I purchased many of Ani’s videos and engaged in a long private conversation with her on ManyVids to contribute feedback. But it didn’t go anywhere. Ludella Hahn, Hypnolust, XXX Multimedia, Sweet Delilah, and many many others always receive tons of support and purchases. But people only get feedback when it’s warranted.

This is a very lively friendly community that acknowledges the weirdness that is our fetish, but wants to have kinky fun anyways. We’re supportive and grateful towards people that make content that we like. We didn’t like this lady’s content, and now WE are the assholes. Whaaaaa?

[cbjoe]

Name one other creator who has caused this much of a problem. I purchased many of Ani’s videos and engaged in a long private conversation with her on ManyVids to contribute feedback. But it didn’t go anywhere.

The problem is not Ani E's efforts to constructively engage here. The problem is the toxic reaction from a small but vocal minority of you guys.

Ani E hasn't caused any problems. You guys are the ones posting spiteful comments and debating whether she's caused a schism. There was no catalyst required for this reaction to occur. From her side, this was a sincere effort to engage. From your side, some of you turned it into something unpleasant. The toxicity in all of this is entirely one sided, it's from within the community. One content creator posting a couple of replies could not cause "this much of a problem" and would not be able to in a healthy community.

"We’re supportive and grateful towards people that make content ... and now WE are the assholes."

If you believe that, then you have a grossly warped and distorted view of what is supportive.

In your own words, this is the great job you've convinced yourself you're doing of supporting content creators: "I think 90% of filmed videos just suck. And I think the community knows this too." (AmpFetish)

Does AmpFetish sound like an "asshole" when he talks about content and its creators? I will leave that to the reader to judge. I think the majority of objective observers will agree with my conclusions, so much so that I need not spell it out.

Many in this community are, indeed, supportive of creators. Conversely, you, AmpFetish, and a small number of others who chimed in on this thread, are doing the polar opposite of that. You're poisoning the community, and deterring creators. When presented with the facts, you switch to a state of indignant denial. But read your own words on this very forum, the truth is undeniable.

Dudes like Amp are literally destroying this genre for everyone. Unfortunately, he's too self-righteous, and too passive-aggressive, to face the harsh truth. It's one of the reasons why he was offended by Ani E's perfectly reasonable appeal for feedback. Here in the echo chamber of this forum, he finds enough support to sustain his distorted, entitled view of this unique corner of kink and his place in it.

I wrote this after careful consideration, and with all due respect.

[hyperspace51]

Can we be done?
It’s done.
She’s stated she’s done.
This is a Fetish site.
Robots are fucking hot.
Metroid Prime 4 is coming out
We are getting Avengers Endgame.
Game of Thrones is back.
Master Chief collection is coming to PC.
Life is good

[AmpFetish]

Cbjoe, I don’t know why you think a few posts on here completely define my character, but you’re getting really aggressive here. I think it’s agreeable that 90% of anything sucks. I was making a point that most content doesn’t do it for most people. Most people that attempt content don’t hit that high bar set by the best artists on here that “get it”. I don’t see why we have to buy and support things that don’t work.

I purchased and supported 75% of Ani’s content (literally gave her around 100$) hoping that her enthusiasm for it would eventually make her great for the genre. I even had a very nice half-hour chat with her about the community and tried to give her tips as to what works and what doesn’t. I even gave her video references. But as time went on, she still came across as pushy and wouldn’t let the whole thing go.

Also, most people don’t have the time of day to dedicate all day to a kink. Most people wanna boot up their computer, see something, and then resume with their life. I try my hardest to engage with everyone here and be excited and supportive for things when I can. But maybe you’re right, Cbjoe, maybe I am a passive aggressive toxic asshole that is literally destroying the genre for everyone.

[cbjoe]

But as time went on, she still came across as pushy and wouldn’t let the whole thing go.

You're entitled to your opinion. We must agree to disagree about your opinion that she was in any way pushy. It seems to me that what you see as "didn't let it go" was in fact her raising the issue here again a couple of times, in a measured way, with a considerable wait between posts.

She evidently wants to make content for this genre, but needs the community to be more on board -- on bar with all other genres. That is all I got from her messages. It all seems pretty reasonable to me, and I think the one and only reason why certain people got all butt hurt and vicious about it is because the harsh truths she was telling hit a raw nerve for those people.

There was no reason for her to be attacked the way she was. It was not called for. It was rather unpleasant.

I'm just telling you how it really is. No offence.

[Sweet Delilah]

This Unit feels overwhelmed and perplexed by this post and it's many replies, as I have just come across it and do not know the performer in question well. But it does motivate me to say:

To anyone who has ever reached out, given me feedback both positive and negative, or bought my files:
THANK YOU.

Feedback is always appreciated but never required, in this Unit's opinion. I am thankful for this community and the privilege to have an outlet for a kink I hold so dear.

This Unit also appreciates all the effort you have put into building the community, RobotMan.

[Toastdroid]

I stated that everything seems ancillery to her zoophilia videos because after I had engaged with her on ManyVids (including in private messages), I revealed that I was a furry. She then took that and mentioned zoophilia, and asked me for my email address, whereupon she sent me an email with links to a Google Drive account containing explicit beastiality videos and an offer to sell them off-site because they were not allowed on MV. I neither replied nor engaged with any of that content (furry =/= beastiality; it's not my thing at all), but the speed and insistance she had in trying to get me to engage showed me she values her zoophilia folks more than anything else available.

what the actual fuck