Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby Uncom » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:01 pm

Seriously?

We're asking people to leave more feedback for content creators and it devolves into this?


Considering how my arguments were either completely misrepresented or straight up ignored, I felt like it is an appropriate devolution.

Anyways, I agree with FoF.
Demonizing our entire community, acting all entitled and moaning about our fetish dying because semi-professional creators stopped providing porn isn't really the way to do it. This fetish has survived for longer than I'm alive and I'm sure it'll only get amplified in the future.
I think most wouldn't even have cared about feedback because if they see the dosh flowing thanks to robot-clips, they're keep going to provide. (Aside from some exceptions like Ani Erotica, who I would gladly give feedback to if I bought her clips.)

Most creators probably also stopped because as FoF said, they got stable jobs now and don't have time for fembot content.


Also, I find it to be a slap to the face to claim that the fetish is dying while more and more artists, story-writers, animators and manippers pop up regularily and who spend their free-time providing fembot-content completely free of charge.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby daphne » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:14 pm

So you want us to directly message porn stars and tell them how much we loved getting off on their porn and how they could do their porn better. Because that's not weird at all.

Yeah, that's a no from me, dawg.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby Robotman » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:34 pm

People are misunderstanding what's been posted, so I urge everyone to read the original posts again. This is about:

Lack of feedback to content producers which is driving them away.

Without going into specifics, Kishin received a detailed message via PM. This showed that our community has an abysmal habit of not reviewing, not rating, and not commenting on almost anything purchased from a certain site, and the person who sent Kishin this PM told him that it was discouraging. We're trying to pass this message on.

But if you want to lawyer the point, if you want to tell us that we can't make you comment and review anything, then you can do that. Just be aware of how that looks to these content producers, especially now that all were asking is for people to click a button on a website, or leave a few words telling what they thought.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby daphne » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:37 pm

Ah yes, it's clearly us misunderstanding the point. Thank you so much for botsplaining it to me.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby 33cl33 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:04 am

Content creators need to realize they're not guaranteed feedback. Or that silence might be the response.

I, for one, regret ever responding to one particular "creator" of late. The endless stream of desperate pms I've received pretty much killed any interest in helping. Or buying, or whatever.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby The Thinker » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:56 am

Lurking Buyer here.

I suspect that many buyers are simply shy and embarrassed about telling content creators what they want. Perhaps don't fully realise just how small this community is and that we simply need to be more involved than other communities with content creators to improve the content and to keep everyone happy.

I for one intend to be more active, and I will admit that I could give far more feedback, especially to those that I really do appreciate.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby Toastdroid » Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:49 am

I promised I was not gonna get involved in this slugfest but, nah, gonna have to, thoughts on it have been stewing.

I've happily provided feedback to producers who have asked for it, and I've even done a couple reviews for stuff I thought was a little too obscure, and knowing that I find it frankly somewhat insulting to suggest that lack of feedback is what is "driving away" content producers.

Honestly to begin with I am highly skeptical of that, cause to be honest and strictly in the scope of paid adult content there is actually more stuff getting made now than the norm (I'm not saying whether most of that is good, but still). I'm not sure whether people actually notice this because to be honest people here tend to hyperfixate on a handful of models to - I suspect - the detriment of all others (not gonna call judgement on that, just how I perceive it). On another note I'd like to dispute the notion that Evangelion Winter has been "cranking out tons of stuff lately" since they've in fact just been re-releasing older clips in HD (which is a good thing but it's hardly new stuff).

But even if that were not the case, these people are professionals, this is their job, and the reason they drop out from making this stuff is that other stuff makes more money for them. You want to know why Ashley Fires stopped making robot stuff? Because she found something that paid more. And that's 100% totally fine, I do not blame people in an industry as volatile as sex work to seek greener pastures. "We" are too small of an interest group to totally support people monetarily and socially. I honestly can't believe I have to say that, because I thought it was obvious. Do not assume people that make porn for you are your friends, because it's unhealthy and demanding to do so.

If this was just a "hey, it'd be nice if you gave ratings to stuff you like on sites that allow it, cause it helps models' promote themselves, if you can" I wouldn't have any problem, if it were "hey, if a model asks you directly for feedback, let 'em know when you have time" that'd also be fine, but it's totally unfair to both demand feedback and also blame people who have already paid money for not providing it, completely unprompted, especially when there are a ton of people on here, including myself, making content for free without that expectation (which honestly if I wanted I would actually go elsewhere for, because there are far more active groups around this stuff than here).

If you really want to tell a model how you like this stuff, and for them to keep making it, commission them, hell commission more people who haven't done this stuff before if you want it to be more widespread (there's a ton of models out there now, some do customs for as low as 40 bucks for 10 minutes, c'mon). Do not hold others responsible for your own lack of content. It is patronizing to do so to with an emoticon laden post and it is patronizing to try and dictate how people engage in their interests and how they manage their relationships within those interests.

Okay I think I'm done, that's a frankly ridiculous amount of words about niche robot pornography.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby daphne » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:22 am

Toastdroid wrote:it's totally unfair to both demand feedback and also blame people who have already paid money for not providing it, completely unprompted


This is my main beef as well. Like, you already got paid, bruh. You need me to give you a pep talk on top of that? I'm not your therapist.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby Robotman » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:06 am

I need to clarify some thing again that people have either missed or chosen not to believe:

- The claim that creators are being driven away due to lack of feedback is not a judgement from Kishin or myself. This comes directly from a content creator.

Many people feel that they know better what this person has stated themself, so by all means, keep posting all about how this isn't true. Just remember that this is a public forum and everyone - including content creators - can see how dismissive you are of them.

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Re: Content Creators Need Your Feedback.

Postby Kano » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:19 am

Kishin is correct. It might be hard to believe, but these women aren't actually robots, lol. Real people enjoy positve feedback and approval from real people - which is something money can't buy. A "thank you" here or "nice vid" there goes far. This is their job. For example, at my job, I do the best that I can. Of course I enjoy the money, but one thing that stands out to me this year was not any of my paychecks but getting a very unexpected certificate of appreciation from one of my supervisors from something I did (which was something I didnt even have to do.) I do things all the time at work that I don't have to and I'll still get paid the same even if I didn't do them. But knowing that people appreciate the extras of what I do motivates me to do it. If they didn't, I'd probably say f*** it too. I'm still getting paid. In their field, ASFR is probably an "extra" too. I'm guessing it's probably not their biggest moneymaker so they don't have to do it either. Let's all remember to give a little feedback. If anyone doesn't understand what makes a woman tick I will break it down for you: Using compliments, flattery and gratitude on these units are verbal authorization program codes. The more you use them, the more her pleasure programming responds to you. However, over time, not using these codes will trigger a glitch in their central processing unit, causing numerous errors and triggering these units to begin to malfunction and shut down beyond repair.

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