Not Bursting Bubbles

andoroido · Post by **andoroido** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:24 pm

What to do? What to do?

This is a fantasy site after all.
People have their illusions, sometimes in the face of obvious facts.
But I hold my tongue because I don't want to "burst any bubbles"

As an example of ANY sex-related internet site.
The issue of "fakers"

Pretending to be someone you're not:
posing as a member of the opposite sex
posing as someone of a different age democraphic
using some random beautiful/handsome person's photo in place of your own

If I have proof that someone is a "faker" should I say anything?
Does it depend on the case?
How about if the faker is making money off their faking?

My policy is mainly "don't burst other people's bubbles" let them keep their fantasies, telling them the truth will just ruin a harmless fantasy. Nobody's getting hurt anyway, right?

But then there's another morality, whatever you want to call it "the brotherhood of men" or "the guy code" or whatever. The thing that makes you want to warn a guy, even someone you don't really like, if he is about to kiss a tranny in Bangkok, or that some chick is a total psycho he shouldn't get involved with no matter how hot she is...but those are real life, not Internet, cases.

Thoughts?

Lord of the Geeks · Post by **Lord of the Geeks** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:48 pm

I say that the truth should always be known. a breif pain of the truth, is better than a heart rending later when the truth comes.. for the truth always comes.

Thought these quotes were relevent on the subject... strange that in some ways.. some can be interpreted to argue for either side.

Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.
--Flannery O'Connor

You cannot change the truth, but the truth can change you.
--Unknown

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad.
--Aldous Leonard Huxley British writer

I don't want any yes-men around me.
I want everybody to tell me the truth even if it costs them their jobs.
--Samuel Goldwyn (1882 - 1974)

I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell.
--Harry S. Truman

If you do not tell the truth about yourself,
you can't tell it about other people.
--Virginia Woolf

Truth is a passion. One cannot learn it; one must possess it.
--Ernst Toller

Most writers regard truth as their most valuable possession,
and therefore are most economical in its use.
--Mark Twain

Never tell the truth to people who are not worthy of it.
--Mark Twain

Because you're not what I would have you be,
I blind myself to who, in truth you are.
--Madeline L'Engle

The truth that makes men free is for the most part
the truth which men prefer not to hear.
--Herbert Agar

A truth that's told with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent.
--William Blake

The truth may hurt but a lie can cut a deeper wound.
--Unknown

Speak the truth, but leave immediately after.
--Slovenian Proverb

Truth never plays false roles of any kind, which is why
people are so surprised when meeting it.
Everyone must decide whether he wants the uncompromising truth
or a counterfeit version of truth. Real wisdom consists of
recommending the truth to yourself at every opportunity.
--Vernon Howard

There are ten or twenty basic truths, and life is the
process of discovering them over and over and over.
--David Nichols

The truth of the matter is that you always know the right thing to do,
the hard part is doing it
--General Norman Schwarzkopf

The difference between truth and fiction: fiction has to make sense
--Mark Twain

KingJeremy · Post by **KingJeremy** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:30 am

I think I may have an idea as to what Androido is referring to. It's an educated guess based on this post and a recent link provided. I could be completely wrong though.

That being said, I know that when I go to a site like say NiteFlirt and browse ads there that many times the woman pictured isn't the actual girl talking on the phone. Some of those women post pictures of Jenna Jameson or other equally famous adult stars in their profile. I imagine some might even use photos of famous adult models from other countries as well. (

) Not every model is a fake but it's usually obvious as to which ones are.

Just my two cents.

As to whether or not to burst the bubble? Email the person and ask him if they want the info you have, chances are they may know already and if they don't they would like the info you can provide.

tully · Post by **tully** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:42 am

...I'd go just a step further, if I may.

Due to the nature of our desires, our fetish...it's all fantasy and make believe.

While I more than understand where you're coming from, I think we all share a fair degree of denial when we exercise our hobby. We know that our partner (on the phone, online, in person or otherwise) isn't the android we want and desire...but that other person is playing a role for us.

And like the King said, I think most of understand that when we use "pay for" sites and services, we're not always getting a 100% accurate representation of what we see or are presented with...but let's face it...we're not using services like that because of what we're seeing on a screen, we're looking for something specific that does not actually exist.

It's a touch call, andoroido. I know you to be a respected member of this community. I don't think you'd "out" anyone to hurt them, but rather that you'd try to warn someone off from something potentially painful.

If it was something that was going to potentially hurt a friend of mine or myself...yeah, I'd want to know. I'd probably want it done discreetly, but yeah...I think I'd want to know.

andoroido · Post by **andoroido** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:47 am

It's not so serious. I was just fishing for opinions.

There really is no single source for this.

Actually, the worst "offender" in my mind, well, I already made a post on that topic about a year ago, and confined more direct comments to PMs [hint: A funny line in the first Austin Powers movie touches on the theme.] And a recent re-discovery and posting of links to a site did dredge up those memories of certain things I wish I could unsee.

I believe in truth, but I don't think demanding 100% truth is wise even in a healthy relationship, let alone a fantasy website on the Internet.

Still, I was wondering where people draw the line of acceptable level of truth vs. acceptable level of fantasy.

In the end, I don't see it as my job to choose the limits for other people.

tully · Post by **tully** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:12 am

Oh no, I fully understand...just got me thinking of it really.

...and now of course I'm morbidly curious.

Rotwang · Post by **Rotwang** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:11 pm

I've met pretenders before, some are easy to spot, some have talent.

My internet survival rule is the following : That chick you just met on the net is really Leon Kompowski, a 45-year old bricklayer from Patersen New Jersey. It makes life a lot easier ...

Lord of the Geeks · Post by **Lord of the Geeks** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:27 pm

but at least leon really does have a DD cup...... ewwwwww

jolshefsky · Post by **jolshefsky** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:53 pm

If I tell the truth already, then I have nothing to fear from someone threatening to tell the truth. The same isn't true for a "faker."

Regardless, I use the test: is it harming anybody else? If the answer is yes, then the truth should probably be revealed. If it's "no" or "I'm not 100% sure" then you should probably keep quiet.