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How Serious Are You About Gynoids?

Very: I would prefer a gynoid partner but would settle for a GREAT girl
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28%
Strong: I would prefer a human partner but would settle for my ideal gynoid
16
35%
Good: I only want a gynoid for sex and/or a servant but I don't mind having them around
8
17%
Neutral: I find this topic interesting but don't critisize those who are serious about it
5
11%
Bad: It's okay for a fantasy but I would not be interested in the real thing and question those who are
1
2%
Weak: This interest is for entertainment purposes only!
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No votes
Negative: This is perverted and I only come here to laugh at you freaks
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No votes
Other: Please explain
3
7%
 
Total votes: 46

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Post by dale coba » Sun Oct 20, 2002 3:25 pm

1024 wrote:Nevertheless, here goes, and this is probably more difficult to me than admitting that I find the idea of female robots very, umm, sexy. It's something that only one person in real life knows about, but it may be relevant to Keizo's question. I think a factor in me being here is a problem with relationships in the real world, but not because of any physical disability, rather a neurological condition - Asperger's Syndrome, it's an autism related disorder but very much at the mild end of the spectrum, it doesn't affect general intelligence, just stuff like reading body language and understanding what other people are thinking. Most affected people can learn to get by and live relatively normal lives but we'll never really be fluent in interpersonal stuff, it's all a foreign language to us, I've heard it described as "Oops, Wrong Planet!" syndrome and that seems about right to me. Machines on the other hand are logical and easy to understand, perhaps that's why I'm attracted to them.

IK
Way to go, in the Self-Knowledge department ! That's not a pleasant card to be dealt, but I have read some about your condition, and I applaud the degree to which you understand your most significant difference from the masses. Compared to most folks, that's a boldly examined life.

What you said rings very true with my theories about what makes us different. I think I'm in between you and the masses, because I'm a rather phenomenal communicator, but my aroused persona needs that confusion between female object and subject. Not that gynoids won't happen, but the imagery of gynoids is a myth of our times, as Roman and Greeks Gods were perfect, immortal, immutable in their Age, good enough as robots considering their superiorities.

As a child, children never made much sense to me. Or maybe I was too cerebral, talking like Fox Network's John Doe. Maybe I understood them, and I was only disappointed by their unsophistication. It may not have been my preferred language/planet, but I could read it. I wasn't very convincing, trying to act as other kids did.

I've got weird genes, and my father was so orientation confused that he only came out of the closet at the age of 55. Forgive me for saying so, but those are not the strongest, well-balanced gene variants. It's not wrong for us non-hypernormals to be who we are; I'm not a hater, don't misunderstand. It's just that mine are not genes I care to indiscriminately pass on - odds are they don't add up to offspring of median health or beauty or conventional orientation. My father's brother is gay, and so was their father, in Germany before WWII (Youwch!). I'm the only heterosexual male left on that side of the family, and given my presence here, I would have to say that I do have something in common with my relatives, if I may use the word "perversion" in a totally non-judgemental way; meaning distortion of the ideal from a species-reproduction perspective.

We would crave cyber-companionship from a mind we could fully comprehend, and which we would engineer so as to avoid all social and interpersonal conflicts. Some(one/thing) perhaps also who felt that females should mirror, reproduce, and validate the imagery of our non-human (i.e. fetish) attraction to a perfected synthetic being, over a hypothetical perfect organic female partner.

I think my nervous system doesn't work very well when aroused, and the motions and nonsensical breakdown routines of imaginary partners are an externalization of my internal sensations and feedback from my body's nerves. They tell me, when I feel sexy, thinking about gynoid motion and thought reinforces those sensations, as only one's own fetish can.

If we had full genetic data of the whole gang here, and as much self-knowledge and honesty as you offered us readers, we could likely understand how we got into this club in the first place... which fascinates me. It would be naming, validating.


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Post by ehy » Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:33 pm

sea captains always referred to their ship as if it was a person, they even talked to them, granted they didn't hear anything back but their lives were based around a particular sailing vessel, and to respect the boat you had to trust "her" and think of her as a person, else that boat will torture you to no end.
Interesting analogy, Silver... I gotta think about that one.

To those who've recently revealed difficult things about themselves... I salute and respect the courage it took to say them. I feel like I should respond in some way to your revelations, but at the same time I feel I shouldn't. Any kind of response seems as if it would constitute pity (which I don't feel and doubt you want), understanding (which I cannot claim to have), or apathy (which isn't what I feel either).

The fact is... these things do not change my opinions of you, or the way I expect to interact with you now that I know them, except inasmuch as I feel the need to acknowledge them. And I guess that's something you might want to know.

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Post by BethBot0101 » Sun Oct 20, 2002 5:40 pm

Okay,

if you guys think you have it bad think about us TSes and our coming out.

I mean coming out for a Transsexual usually means telling everyone that they actually care about and usually they start the transition process.

In my case I am TS but, also have this wanky desire to be a Fembot.

Go figure.

On a scale of 1 to 10 on the weirdness scale and 10 being the most wierd, I'm at least an 8.
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Post by Miss Silver Karakuri » Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:46 pm

Beth your not the only one.

3 1/2 yrs HRT, 2 yrs FT.

:wink:
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Post by BethBot0101 » Sun Oct 20, 2002 7:34 pm

silverkarakuri wrote:Beth your not the only one.

3 1/2 yrs HRT, 2 yrs FT.

:wink:
Thanks.

I've had about 3 months of HRT but, am having trouble with getting a referral for the refill. Changed therapists and the doctor who persribed the HRT is refusing to give me a refill perscription until he can talk with someone who gets a diagnosis. Trouble is that perscription runs out in 3 weeks. :cry:

Been on the RLT since last December.

If you know a quick solution to my HRT mess that doesn't involve ordering from one of those overseas companies, let me know.
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Post by Miss Silver Karakuri » Sun Oct 20, 2002 8:06 pm

Well talk to locals in your area find out who are the docs and who are the script writers and see a script writer, they would give the meds to a cat if the cat could ask for it. Its how I started. Either way this is veering away from the topic, silverkarakuri@diary-x.com if you wish to chat more.
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Post by BethBot0101 » Sun Oct 20, 2002 8:36 pm

silverkarakuri wrote:Well talk to locals in your area find out who are the docs and who are the script writers and see a script writer, they would give the meds to a cat if the cat could ask for it. Its how I started. Either way this is veering away from the topic, silverkarakuri@diary-x.com if you wish to chat more.
Yeah it is getting off topic, isn't it? 8O

I'm on a couple other boards but, the only other one I post to is a Mac board (ATAT to be exact).

Anyway, I'll stop the public part of this discussion here as it is getting kind of off topic.

On topic though, telling people you are different is always hard.
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Post by Keizo » Mon Oct 21, 2002 7:33 am

Dale Coba wrote:
1024 wrote:Nevertheless, here goes, and this is probably more difficult to me than admitting that I find the idea of female robots very, umm, sexy. It's something that only one person in real life knows about, but it may be relevant to Keizo's question. I think a factor in me being here is a problem with relationships in the real world, but not because of any physical disability, rather a neurological condition - Asperger's Syndrome, it's an autism related disorder but very much at the mild end of the spectrum, it doesn't affect general intelligence, just stuff like reading body language and understanding what other people are thinking. Most affected people can learn to get by and live relatively normal lives but we'll never really be fluent in interpersonal stuff, it's all a foreign language to us, I've heard it described as "Oops, Wrong Planet!" syndrome and that seems about right to me. Machines on the other hand are logical and easy to understand, perhaps that's why I'm attracted to them.

IK
Way to go, in the Self-Knowledge department ! That's not a pleasant card to be dealt, but I have read some about your condition, and I applaud the degree to which you understand your most significant difference from the masses. Compared to most folks, that's a boldly examined life.

As a child, children never made much sense to me. Or maybe I was too cerebral, talking like Fox Network's John Doe. Maybe I understood them, and I was only disappointed by their unsophistication. It may not have been my preferred language/planet, but I could read it. I wasn't very convincing, trying to act as other kids did.

I've got weird cystic fibrosis and Gilbert's genes, and my father was so orientation confused that he only came out of the closet at the age of 55. Forgive me for saying so, but those are not the strongest, well-balanced gene variants. It's not wrong for us non-hypernormals to be who we are; I'm not a hater, don't misunderstand. It's just that mine are not genes I care to indiscriminately pass on - odds are they don't add up to offspring of median health or beauty or conventional orientation.
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It seems the plot thickens as we become more open about our respective reasoning as opposed to mere rationalizing. I too have a history of many medical conditions withing my family that would put any offspring I had at a very high risk. The conditions range from diabeties and depression on both sides to severe arthritis, and even retardation. I've already mentioned that I was slightly crippled in an accident although enough to keep me shut in most of the time, but I also suffer from major depression and slight ADD coupled with OCD. Financial reasons also are a consideration since I can't be much of a provider.

Since inherent personalities and outlooks are also something that we have no real control over (i.e. "Glass is half-full/half-empty" opinions) it also stands to reason that we would choose to have our respective partners perceive the former. I am also tired of all the games. I don't necessarily want a servant as much as I want a partner. Someone who will always motivate me. Yes, even nag me and get on my case within reason when I deserve it or NEED it. Someone who will comfort me too. Someone who will ultimately help me achieve my full potential as I would try to do in return. If that means also taking care of some of the more mundane tasks in order for me to have time to work on creative pursuits then so be it, but I don't mind helping fold laundry or rinsing dishes as she washes them or just generally do my part ;)

I am not saying that there is nothing to true love for another human being by any sense. One of the greatest affirmations in the world is having someone you love also choose for themselves that they share your desire. To also share intimacy and moments and discover things together is a profound feeling indeed. We don't really know if this can truly be fulfilled by an artificial partner that isn't actually phased by things as we are, but a bond can still be formed especially if her attitude and responses are programmed well enough to give that impression. It also depends on the person, of course. My car and I have been through hell together.

P.S. To Dale Coba:
As a communicator have you written any stories? I would like to read them if you have. But now you know why I usually keep my mouth shut around here when it comes to discussions.

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Post by Baron » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:58 am

Okay, I'm gonna paint with some broad strokes, so bear with me. Regarding the personal / private aspects of this thread; we all have unique characteristics as individuals, be they physical, psychological, emotional, you name it. That's what sets the human race apart from all other living creatures. Within the hard core of the ASFR community - the true followers, if you will - there is incredible diversity, and better still, TOLERANCE. Those of you who have made deep revelations about yourselves need not fear ridicule or rebuke; the true followers don't pass judgement (and if they do, they keep it to themselves)!! I've been involved within the community since '96, and to this moment I'm still amazed at how compassionate most of the other community members are. Yes, a few bad apples crop up here and there, but being bad apples, they have a short shelf-life!! I've made a few good "e-friends" through this community, and what's true here is true outside the community - we are a diverse lot, and we have tolerance as a second nature. I value these friendships a great deal, as a result. Word up, guys!

Me, I'm hardly noteworthy - healthy, reasonably sane :twisted:, happily married. For me, the prime mover driving my love of gynoids is the simple fact that 97% of all gynoid characters have been played by beautiful women. Oh, the whole malfunction/monotone voice/mechanical movement aspect appeals strongly to me, but I place it in its' proper context - several components of a much broader whole. And I am somewhat pragmatic about the overall idea of gynoids - mankind is not perfect; thus it is either sheer fallacy, or the height of egotism (take your pick) to think that any of his creations would be. In short, mankind is not omnipotent!

My final thought concerns the name of this community: Alt. Sex Fetish Robots. I always assumed the "alt." stood for "alternative," thus making it easy to lump us in with all the other fetishists. "Techno-sexual" is too broad a term - a cyber-sex/porn individual could fit side-by-side with an admirerer of mechanical women, by definition, as could someone who literally tries to "have sex" with a machine, whether it has a human form or not (a-la Doofy, in "Scream 2."). IMHO, admirers of mechanical women more accurately describes the community.

And "AI" still sucks......................
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Post by 1024 » Mon Oct 21, 2002 1:32 pm

Ok, just a brief note for now. This is a thread I keep re-reading, and thinking I should say something more but I don't know what (a feeling I'm very familiar with :? ), but as the baron says there seems to be a good bunch of folk here.

For the moment I'll just say that I hope I didn't sound like I was complaining about anything. A spot of AS is no big deal compared to some things - a friend of mine died of cancer recently, seeing what that can do to someone puts things in perspective.

IK

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Post by mechana » Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:16 am

One thing I have noticed in the last five years is that the people in the ASFR community are getting more intelligent and more mature. I don't know why this is (but I like it!). Maybe the ones who contribute to the public discussion happen to be the intelligent and thoughtful ones. As we know there are hundreds (thousands?) of silent lurkers.

Discussion threads like this are what keep me coming back, as I have found that the actual content (stories, images, etc.) has either become derivative of all the early stuff, or else I simply don't have the time to appreciate it anymore.

Oh and for what it's worth, this is mostly a fetish for me (no problem with the ASFR name). This is not to trivialise it, because it is a large part of my life, but the attraction for me stems from having a vibrant, intelligent girl subject to the limitations of a mechanical body (batteries run down, malfunction, wind-up spring, etc.) Needless to say the gynoid must be sentient for me to really enjoy it.

Oh and I would jump at the chance to *be* that gynoid, but not necessarily permanently.

Anyhow keep thinking good stuff everyone.

XXX Mechana

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Post by dale coba » Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:01 pm

Keizo wrote: P.S. To Dale Coba:
As a communicator have you written any stories? I would like to read them if you have. But now you know why I usually keep my mouth shut around here when it comes to discussions.
I've been a lurker and consumer of the on-line ASFR community since before there was an A.S.F.R. newsgroup. I've read enough stories to know what I want to read, and therefore what I want to write. This is my third attempt to get started over the years, and I've certainly made a good beginning to a several chaptered tale taking place in my favorite mythic town in Connecticutt. The problem is, I have no reason to think I can write fiction. I'm nearly afire with ideas, and I've captured most of them to text files; but I do not know how to tell if what I'm writing makes the grade. It may take a long time - I'd say I'm one-third way through the draft of all 9 or 10 chapters.


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Post by Sega-boy » Mon Nov 11, 2002 3:50 am

I would never SETTLE for a GREAT girl. That would be like winning the lottery and saying "whatever".

For me, an android would be a substitute (and a servant).

Having said that, I find it amusing that I would still want to role-play the techno-fetish with this GREAT girl, even if I had a real android in the closet.

In fact, if she was truly a great girl, she would be fascinated with the android as well.

By the way, I watched Buffy TVS "I was made to love you" for the first time tonight.

I realized that if I had built April, I too would quickly become bored with her. But then again, April would not be my ideal android without some serious reprogramming.

Also, I couldn't be happy with just one android. I would need many.
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