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Kinda curious as to who's buying the videos that are featured...

Post by tdlsn » Wed May 30, 2018 4:52 pm

Kinda curious as to who's buying the videos that are featured in this thread. :?:

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Post by KingJeremy » Wed May 30, 2018 6:08 pm

tdlsn wrote:Kinda curious as to who's buying the videos that are featured in this thread. :?:
I buy stuff that's not transformation or hypnosis unless it looks bad from the get go. I have a whole folder of meh videos that have been watched once. That being said, when you stumble upon a great one it's all worth it. I also browse the robot category at iwantclips and manyvids as well, if a video is on all 3 sites I'll purchase from Clips4sale unless it's drastically cheaper elsewhere. C4S has been great on the customer service side on the rare occasion I've had an issue. I've been buying from there since Frank first started making robot videos and your choices were him or Risque Renee withe an occasional one off from somebody.

Actually just remembered, my first Renee purchase was actually VHS by mail. Same with the guy who made that Junkyard Dolls video.

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Post by Toastdroid » Thu May 31, 2018 5:48 pm

I buy stuff (pay for your porn, it's important) and weirdly enough I don't really mind if the robot stuff isn't great, since at the end of the day I still like vanilla porn. I can actually be the opposite of the guy above in that I'm a little disappointed if there's no nudity or sex stuff.

Would be nice to have a general discussion thread for this kinda stuff also, since it is nice to have a heads up on stuff.

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Post by jolshefsky » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:14 am

If there's one thing I'd like to see is a way to tag videos and/or flag agreement with the producer's tags. Like search-engine spammers, a lot of content producers put every tag under the sun in the description. I tire of videos that are tagged "robot" only to find it's some "I hypnotized my sister to be a cum dumpster" kind of thing–at least most producers include descriptions that let you know that. But oh well ... I'll still buy sometimes.
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Post by tdlsn » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:55 am

What clips4sale is really missing, at least from a consumer standpoint, is a section for comments and reviews. I get why they'll never do it: The overwhelming majority of c4s content (for robots at least) is pretty awful, and they probably pick up most of their sales by people crossing their fingers and blindly hoping it's as good as it looks in the previews. No doubt, producing a quality ASFR clip is really hard, especially compared to other popular niche fetishisms like distressed superheroines or even something relatively similar like a hypno vid.
Seriously, the quote above to me at least, leans toward an honest opinion. I have an idea as to how it would have been taken by some if I said something similar let alone something more direct. My guess is that as long as some here don't mind purchasing and then "crossing their fingers" for admittingly awful ROBOT material then C4S will continue churning out what could be described as click bait. The tongue-in-cheeky feel I get from just about all of the previews I cared to watch says to me that the fembot fetish is taboo among fetishes.

Just sayin'

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Post by Kano » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:49 am

CaptainStorytime wrote:
My biggest pet peeve I find in buying these, and it's one I have with even the consistently good studios, is just an overall lack of robot content. Ludellah Hahn for example, is a great robot actress, has good production value, and clearly cares about putting out a professional looking clip. The problem is that even with a great creator like Ludellah or Christina Carter, half of the clips will feature 30 seconds of actual robot content and then pad it with 20 minutes of stock standard girl-girl action or bimbo fetishism. It's just hard to know what you're getting until you actually buy.
Anything from Ludella is an automatic buy for me. I know that when she first started doing robot videos there was not as much robot content as I would have liked. (Obviously, LOL there is never enough!). I feel that as time goes on there is more and more in her videos and she keeps getting better. (She was good from the begining). I love her attention to detail. She does great shutdowns, malfunctions, robotic speech, sound effects, smoke, sparks, blank looks, etc... She literally did the live version of A Thoughtless Vendetta! Also, some of her videos are written by other people so she might have to follow that. Personally, I am a fan of the "surprise" robot. So she may have to act human for a bit until the big surprise and malfunction! I understand the pet peeve though. Anyone can find porn. Anyone can't just find robots though. I understand the frustration though. When we pay for robots- WE WANT TO SEE SOME ROBOTS!!! I could literally watch a 10, 15, 20, etc minute video of a female robot malfunction or repairs, etc. We have to remember, WE have been into this since most likely our teens. WE know what we want. THEY are new to this. The most important thing is our support and input!!!!

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Post by dieur » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:56 pm

I'll buy if I see something that's interesting to me, but that's rare these days. Two robots interacting or anything involving messing with circuitry. I agree with jolshefsky that most of what comes out as "robot" related is just mind control, which is a bit of a turn off for me. Much else is "I bought a robot but it doesn't work right", which has never caught my interest.

Did buy a couple clips from Hannah and Ludelleh, as they sometimes put a little story into them. Might get the Kendra James "my neighbor is a robot" clip.

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Post by KingJeremy » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:56 pm

Kano wrote:
CaptainStorytime wrote:
My biggest pet peeve I find in buying these, and it's one I have with even the consistently good studios, is just an overall lack of robot content. Ludellah Hahn for example, is a great robot actress, has good production value, and clearly cares about putting out a professional looking clip. The problem is that even with a great creator like Ludellah or Christina Carter, half of the clips will feature 30 seconds of actual robot content and then pad it with 20 minutes of stock standard girl-girl action or bimbo fetishism. It's just hard to know what you're getting until you actually buy.
Anything from Ludella is an automatic buy for me. I know that when she first started doing robot videos there was not as much robot content as I would have liked. (Obviously, LOL there is never enough!). I feel that as time goes on there is more and more in her videos and she keeps getting better. (She was good from the begining). I love her attention to detail. She does great shutdowns, malfunctions, robotic speech, sound effects, smoke, sparks, blank looks, etc... She literally did the live version of A Thoughtless Vendetta! Also, some of her videos are written by other people so she might have to follow that. Personally, I am a fan of the "surprise" robot. So she may have to act human for a bit until the big surprise and malfunction! I understand the pet peeve though. Anyone can find porn. Anyone can't just find robots though. I understand the frustration though. When we pay for robots- WE WANT TO SEE SOME ROBOTS!!! I could literally watch a 10, 15, 20, etc minute video of a female robot malfunction or repairs, etc. We have to remember, WE have been into this since most likely our teens. WE know what we want. THEY are new to this. The most important thing is our support and input!!!!
You raise a very good point that is being lost in some of the complaints here. I tried to post earlier about it from my phone but it seems to have been eaten by the site I guess.

The majority of the videos that go up in the robots category are either commissioned or custom requests. That doesn't excuse how bad some of them are, I've commissioned several that ended up being just flat out awful, so much so that I wish I could have just taken the loss and never seen it posted publicly. I've also had some turn out amazingly well. The fact of the matter is that almost every video that is commissioned is then put up for sale by the producer unless you want to pay an exorbitant fee for exclusivity. Sometimes it's a bad script or idea from the get go but it's usually the execution where things go south. That's the rub though, there really isn't some army of asfr enthusiasts driving a shitty fembot market by buying terrible fembot videos, it's usually paying customers or long time fans requesting something specific that gets made (Diana Knight made one for me with Paris Kennedy some years back as a request). I've also paid large sums of money to have my vision made into a video as well.

There are obviously some,producers who take a chance and produce stuff randomly but not a lot. They make their money on the commission and then slap it up on C4S and any sales on there is just gravy. But if this is as big of an issue as it may seem we should all be more active in saying " hey I bought this and it was great...heres why" or " stay away from this one...here's why". Could solve a lot of our frustrations.

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Post by Windupdolluver » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:47 am

Very interesting discussion, and I like many of us here have bought my fair share of clips, and also like King Jeremy I have submitted a script or two to several different producers that have either hit the concept and idea on the mark or have not at all. I think when we talk about those that ‘get it’ (Like Ludella...Hands down one of the best) I think that being members of this community they are studying and taking notes to our content that we place here to create their characters to reflect. I know WE all have our favorite things to see done in a clip. I too am a big malfunction fan, and would enjoy seeing a 10,15 or 20 minute clip with just that alone. Even if the initial story is not great in content, if the actress can pull off the task of being robotic and doing things like speech, movement and true actions that a robot does if it malfunctions, that would be a winner for me.

I know producers like Diana Knight and Candleboxx have either gone behind the camera , or stopped all together, and there are others who are out there that are willing to try because they have fan support from us (Goldie and Sofia come to mind). I think that the idea of feeding those that we think ‘get it’ should be our goal to combat the lack of good clips that we are all seeing and questioning. I also think we should begin to critique and give opinions about or ‘heads up’ to each other about good quality clips vs. us just ‘crossing our fingers’ and hoping we get a gem. Believe me I have folders of bad clips that I shake my head and say “Why did I buy that one again?”

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Post by Kano » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:32 am

Producers should think about this FACT: Ludella has had at least 5 or 6 NON NUDE robot videos rank at NUMBER ONE... on a PORN video site!!! To me, this just shows that people are looking for robot action - and not simply porn with little to no robot action!!! This should be a wake up call because I believe that the general consensus here, is that we are practically begging to give them our money yet they continue to produce trash and/or refuse to make what we want because they think that because there are nude women in it, that, that will make up for the garbage they are giving us. I'm starting to wonder if there are any more sources to turn to besides what we have now? Are we missing something else??? Like any *real* ameteur actresses??? For example, look at the screencaps we have. 90 % of them are from "regular" sources.... I don't know. It's frustrating to me that something that should be so easy is made into difficult...

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Post by JRosa626 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:41 am

I have a treasure trove of Robot Clips from C4S. After a certain point though I got bored with the usual stuff thats why i started having custom clips done having models perform your fantasies for you is so gratifying. Models like Kayla Obey and Belle Loxely they really put an effort into making quality videos.

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Post by KingJeremy » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:36 am

I feel like this discussion is actually headed somewhere positive. I wonder if the staff wouldn't be opposed to making a sticky for those of us who do buy videos and purchase customs to kick around things that pertain to us. Not like a video idea sticky but just a thread for reviews and opinions, interactions with producers and info on pricing and a place to tell people about stuff you had made. I know we share that stuff from time to time in different sections but maybe a dedicated thread would encourage more activity?

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Post by KingJeremy » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:50 pm

Robotman wrote:How bout this?
Awesome! I'll make some contributions shortly. If it turns out to be a low post/view type of thing I totally understand if you bag it. I'll put up something whenever I purchase anything.

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Post by Toastdroid » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:39 pm

Kano wrote:Producers should think about this FACT: Ludella has had at least 5 or 6 NON NUDE robot videos rank at NUMBER ONE... on a PORN video site!!! To me, this just shows that people are looking for robot action - and not simply porn with little to no robot action!!! This should be a wake up call because I believe that the general consensus here, is that we are practically begging to give them our money yet they continue to produce trash and/or refuse to make what we want because they think that because there are nude women in it, that, that will make up for the garbage they are giving us. I'm starting to wonder if there are any more sources to turn to besides what we have now? Are we missing something else??? Like any *real* ameteur actresses??? For example, look at the screencaps we have. 90 % of them are from "regular" sources.... I don't know. It's frustrating to me that something that should be so easy is made into difficult...
I figured we don't have many screencaps for amateur clips on the wiki cause it'd seem kinda weird to post them without the model's consent; either that are people just aren't really interested in meticulously screencapping their porn.

Also, I'm probably an outlier here in that I highly prefer my robot clips to have sexual content (ludella's vids, though well produced aren't a priority for me for this reason) and I feel that while robot "themed" vids (as opposed to ones that strictly appeal to robot fetishists) are okay - people obviously have different tastes and it's always nice to have options! I'm less disappointed by a bad robot clip with decent porn in than a bad robot clip without any porn.

At the end of the day we have to remember that clip producers are amateurs and our fetish is - let's be frank - pretty obscure. Good feedback and nurturing of new talent is key, and I'm usually okay when I buy a mediocre clip for this reason - monetary support is encouraging these models to try again and improve.

With that in mind I tend to prefer a site like manyvids over c4s - it's a little more expensive in that the buyer has to pay VAT but it's much, much easier to provide feedback and encouragement to models through the review and messaging features (it also lets you download clips more than once which is a lifesaver on an unstable connection and clips can only have 5 tags which removes a ton of glut).

So my point would be that we need to support not just models who are good now but also ones that could be good in the future. Maybe someone should write a primer for models for people to send when commissioning clips?

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