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Post by Dolljoints » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:54 am

Ok this might sound weird. I remember getting "child-boners" from looking at partially clothed skeletons or skeletized characters in various comics or childrens books, without really knowing why. I think I was around 6 when it started? I can actually post a panel of one particular comic that kept arousing me back then, it was very annoying because I didn't know what to do with it, there was no pleasure involved yet.
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I especially liked how the bones disappeared into his clothings and how his belt kinda spans over his pelvic and how he's bending his spine...jesus, even describing it in detail, it still does the magic. I also was attracted to the skeleton in "the last unicorn", maybe you remember. Same for the destruction of the Horned King in Disney's "The black Cauldron" because he gets reduced to a rattling skeleton when the cauldron slowly sucks his flesh off his bones. Not to mention Dr. Kochin from DBZ when he falls into the pit and some electric shock first reveals his robotic nature and then destroys him. Android 18 is nice too, but she's way too human, it doesn't work like that.
Now how do you get from skeletons to robots? It's basically the same thing what I like about robots: it's revealing parts of some inner structure that lies beyond skin or clothes. Dead cold matter that comes to life through the influence of something else, like a human brain or a more primitive AI.
Then I discovered manga & anime and started drawing endo- and exoskeletons over naked manga girls. Then my sexuality and attraction to certain female bodyparts got involved and the passion of revealing some kind of robotic structure and there you go - robot fetish. This then mutated in a little bit of interest in doll-jointed girls. Human skeletons are no longer of interest, except some well placed spine or ribcages, partially visible maybe.

The weirdest part though is that I developed passion for the destruction of robot girls, best shown in various animes where androids get torn apart, damaged or have some sort of malfunction. I really enjoy any kind of "robot-gore", especially if it means revealing inner workings, artifical body fluids, wires. It's not only that though, damaged robots alone don't to the trick. I love it if the Android/Cyborg seems disturbed or surprised by, yet completely aware of it's imminent destruction. If you check out the Gamia Q-Episodes of "Mazinkaiser", that's exactly what I'm talking about. The one getting cut in half? Jesus.

I don't really know why it all started with skeletons or the love for hidden, bonelike features. How is that sexual in any way? It sure turned out to be a massive part of my sexlife, even if I have a girlfriend and enjoy regular sex with humans, I can't help to browse the fembot-wiki gallery once in a while to fap my brains out. God help me if sex-androids get invented before my time is over. I doubt it though.

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Post by Mixgull » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:00 pm

It was to long ago, my parents went to a ceremony or something like that (I was 6) and I just went to sleep and I had a dreamer were a robot girl was my friend (I was to innocent) and I wanted to become true, obviously I discovered sex and I changed my mind... for good

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Post by Esleeper » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:16 pm

Robotman wrote:I think my connection to ASFR stems from my autism (Aspergers specifically) and the fact that I was born without the innate ability to socialize. I've always thought that computers are easier to understand and relate to than people. As for my sexual interest, it comes down to TV shows and movies I saw when I was very young - The Bionic Woman, Star Trek (Original), and a very obscure and short-lived 80s TV series called The Powers of Matthew Star. That last one in particular is special to me because back before the pilot episode aired, the local TV station was promoting it.

I was on summer vacation from school and watching daytime TV. There was this corny show called "Science International" that I loved because I'm a nerd. The station would run two of those in a half hour slot, but needed something to fill in the end to make it 30 minutes. For about two weeks, they ran a promo of The Powers of Matthew Star, and it was the same five minute scene. Cindy the fembot runs out of class to the swimming pool, starts a laser-gun fight with Louis Gossett Jr, and then jumps in to get her laser gun after the hero "psychically" pulls it into the pool away from her. She sparks and malfunctions instantly from water damage, and then has her facemask pulled off to reveal for sure that she's a robot.

I saw that scene repeat every weekday for two weeks, and it had a profound effect on me. In my imagination and in my writing and commissioned work, the faceoff reveal scene is always my favourite.
Interesting, that's very much like my own story. Though in my case I can't even remember anything that might have contributed to it; it was a while ago and it's gotten rather fuzzy. But in my case, it was the mental aspects of it as well as the physical ones; fitting for someone like myself to relate to a machine that's not precisely human but very much akin to one. That said, I can't help but feel a little sad that the nature of human-robot love is approached so...superficially at times, for lack of a better way of putting it. At least in my case, the fembots which are depicted as little more than unthinking automatons simply don't appeal to me- they're too much like objects than beings that can enjoy love, sex, or both.

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Post by Miss Pris » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:26 pm

Now that the interview phase of my research is over I can reveal one of my hypotheses. It's... <dadadada!> exactly what most people here are saying! I'm countering Alison de Fren's idea that the origin of these interests can be understood via (long-defunct, literary critique-style) psychoanalysis and castration anxiety. It seems a simple idea to me that images and ideas we're presented with at key times in our early sexual development would make a big impact on what we come to find as sexually attractive.

For myself, the story is similar. I don't remember how old I was, but I saw an episode of SeaQuest in which the antagonist turns out to have replaced part or all of his body with artificial bits. He opens a panel in his arm to reveal hydraulics, little pistons, and tubes filled with a blue liquid instead of blood. I remember being fascinated with this. I thought it was beautiful. I hadn't thought anything of the character before he was revealed as artificial, but now he was interesting to me. He started to repair the mechanisms in his arm (and I like cyborgs and self-repair especially now, so there ya go...) and I was taken with the entire situation. I remember feeling attracted to his intelligence - something had happened to his body, some illness or accident, so he just fixed himself by making himself artificial - and I remember being so drawn to the idea of having such power over your own anatomy, to change yourself, repair yourself; it was amazing.

Around the same time I saw some crappy 80s movie on TBS or something called "Making Mr. Right" I believe. There's a scene where the female protagonist has taken the male robot to get clothing so he can pass as human, and he comes out of the dressing room and he's completely naked. Before she hastily shepherds him back into the dressing room, she stares at him, eyes wide, mouth open, marveling at the fact that the robot's maker made him anatomically complete. It was some combination of the idea of the naked male body, the surprise on the female character's face (as that's all we see, not the naked male) - as if there was something particularly special or titillating about his male parts - coupled with the robot's complete lack of concern over being naked that made this scene stand out for me.

These two scenes together appear to have, if not sexualized the machinic to me, at least marked it as worthy of my attention later on, as a late teenager/young woman. As a teenager I played table top role playing games (and I was pretty, popular, and in a rock band - and still role played - so apparently geeks are born, not made); for one of the games I was storyteller for I created an NPC who was revealed to be an AI robot, and I made him really hot and have the same blue "blood," hydraulics and pistons as the guy from SeaQuest. Inventing his look and personality was when this interest "came back" as an actual sexual interest, but its origins were clear.

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Post by --NightBattery-- » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:31 pm

oh, Miss priss!
wonderful!
Just remember that is not blood if it is blue!

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Post by darkbutflashy » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:39 am

If I understood it correctly, Miss Pris is after that "literary critique-style" mostly, being abused and still prevalent in "public psychology", as I call it. I appreciate taking away that tool from psychologists *again*, they only gonna mess around with it, not understanding that stories told are just that –stories– and tell nothing about a person but their skill in imagination.
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Post by DukeNukem 2417 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:53 am

First time I saw Nikki Terminator's face get removed in that one Rudy Coby special, it scared the hell out of me. Same for the robot version of Candy Kong with her detached head on the otherwise forgettable Donkey Kong Country cartoon (though that also had something to do with my pathological hatred of musicals at the time). Somewhere down the line, though, the prospect of robotic women stopped weirding me out---probably because I started seeing more and more cartoons featuring them (Batman: The Animated Series, with its "Heart of Steel" two-parter; Monster Farm had one episode where they land developers who wanted the titular farm deployed a fembot to lure the protagonist into selling it, which I can't find on YouTube at all---I remember very specifically one scene where she went to kiss the guy and a tube came out of her mouth, spraying him with the "irresistable" odor of "bananas and kumquats"; Superman: The Animated Series, with Darci and those two blue-skinned alien babes who turned out to be robots.....I could go on!), but the clincher was the first time I saw the fembots in "Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery". That's when the "funny pants feelings" (as DEATH BATTLE's Boomstick would say) first started in earnest.

I'm probably forgetting a LOT of details, but this is pretty much the abridged version of how I first realized I had a thing for fembots.
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Post by Miss Pris » Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:53 pm

Yeah - the whole "I'm an academic so I know you better than you do even though you actually do this and I don't" thing is a problem. Adding defunct psychology to the mix creates a real nose-in-the-air approach to research that is not only pretty obnoxious, but it impedes knowledge. I'm teaching research writing this semester and my number one question when going over people's research proposals with them is "If you already know the answer, why are you doing research?" How can we learn anything if we go into a study completely steeped in our own biases and preconceived conclusions? I feel like that's what de Fren did. And, on top of everything else, she missed a whole hell of a lot. I've only got my toes dipped in the data at this point, and I'm already surprised by some of the things I'm seeing. Already, it looks like three of my hypotheses will pan out -or at least partially - and one of them won't; and that's a good thing. I've already learned something.

Anyway - I'm veering too off topic. Lots of (seemingly) unrelated research supports what everyone here is saying about how these interests originate. People can also be reflective, think back on their lives... someone need only read these forum pages to see that people here are pretty cognizant of the origins of their own sexual interests. A researcher would have to be pretty much insisting on his or her own hypotheses and particular academic/field and framework brainwashing not to see that people can answer this question for themselves. :roll:

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Post by --NightBattery-- » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:31 am

your thesis will be brilliant no doubt.
But now I will be forever haunted as what my hypothetical children would watch on ̶t̶v̶ the internet knowing this information.
At least I know they will not have videogames. that's for sure.

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Post by darkbutflashy » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:32 am

Miss Pris wrote:Yeah - the whole "I'm an academic so I know you better than you do even though you actually do this and I don't" thing is a problem. Adding defunct psychology to the mix creates a real nose-in-the-air approach to research that is not only pretty obnoxious, but it impedes knowledge.
You are too kind in this. The usual "public psychology" approach is "you are crooked *and* defiant not to accept the label I've given to you". Also applies to academics, sadly.
"If you already know the answer, why are you doing research?"
I'm glad I'm into engineering. That is where -though we know almost all about a certain thing- our stuff constantly fails in mysterious ways. So it comes naturally to engineers to read a lot of stuff and think they aren't good enough yet. And if you don't find the answer in the books, ***SCIENCE*** you have to find it out yourself.
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Post by darkbutflashy » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:12 am

Robotman wrote:crazy and desperately lonely men who want to marry [fill in weird stuff here] and pretend they're real women
I remember 1996, when German "women television" channel TM3 did this with the anime crowd. They went to some small conventions in Berlin with a film team, interviewed people, then cut it together like this: Image
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Post by Miss Pris » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:55 pm

Absolutely hysterical, Dark. I can totally picture the "pedophile-upskirt-tentacle-porn-rape-is-in-their-biology" narrative voiced-over images of 12 year old boys in Naruto headbands thumbing through DVD bargain bins and 18 year old cosplay girls with stuffed Domo purses and Para-para dance boots (or whatever the 1996 equivalent of that would have been.) Oh, the deviant evil!!!

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Post by Miss Pris » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:00 pm

--Battery-- wrote:your thesis will be brilliant no doubt.
Oh, Battery - can you be on my dissertation committee?! :wink:

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Post by darkbutflashy » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:45 pm

Miss Pris wrote:Absolutely hysterical, Dark. I can totally picture the "pedophile-upskirt-tentacle-porn-rape-is-in-their-biology" narrative voiced-over images of 12 year old boys in Naruto headbands thumbing through DVD bargain bins and 18 year old cosplay girls with stuffed Domo purses and Para-para dance boots (or whatever the 1996 equivalent of that would have been.) Oh, the deviant evil!!!
Mostly, but:
  • the "boys" had been 30 or so and got no cosplay but glasses and loud voices. Think of Steve Urkel, then you got it.
  • the cosplay girls had been 22 but looked as if they were 14 years old, so it was a real world lolilover's paradise.
  • the "boys" showed no interest in the cosplay girls. Instead, they referred how Ghost in the Shell was way better than Akira. Oh, well, because of the… the story, you know.
  • of course, the general theme was: look at those boys, not interested in the girls at all, only in their abnormal fetish!
Worrying how the "boys" would not be interested in lolita girls on a "women television" channel was kind of surreal.
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Post by --NightBattery-- » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:55 pm

I am having difficulties to see who are you sympathizing with, Flashy.
But I guess, that with an anime convention, and conservative news, there is no one to sympathize with.
except the pin ups and the artists in the booths..if any.

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Post by darkbutflashy » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:55 am

--Battery-- wrote:I am having difficulties to see who are you sympathizing with, Flashy.
I'm part of the manga crowd. Not watching anime, it makes me overload within 20 minutes or so. The Major made me indulge in my own robotic fantasies a great deal… especially because she was "bare" on the cover of the first book, in her cybernetic beauty, in the middle of the comic book shelf of a regular book store. BOLD. Made me feel quite good about my kink.
But I guess, that with an anime convention, and conservative news, there is no one to sympathize with.
Ah no, TM3 was meant to be *progressive*. That made it so disturbing.
except the pin ups and the artists in the booths..if any.
Back then, there weren't any manga-style artists in Germany, it was consumer shows mostly. All the hardcore fanboys went to Comiket to get new stuff.
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Post by Murotsu » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:01 pm

Quite frankly, I found it comforting being a severe introvert. Have you watched The Big Bang Theory? There was a minor character named Lucy on several episodes. I'm really a lot like that. Making friends is incredibly difficult. I always seem alone in a crowd. I don't get picked last, I don't get picked at all.
To have a friend that was designed for me was an intriguing idea.

Anyway, that's where it comes from for me.

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Post by darkbutflashy » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:43 am

Murotsu, I sympathize with you. It's pretty much the same for me but I have understood looooooooong ago (when I was five years old or so) it's because I'm terribly sensitive. And that's intrinsic, it doesn't depend on someone outside who "pick" or "not pick" you. You aren't getting "picked" because you appear to feel dangerously unsafe - giving up or breaking into tears for no appearant reason.

Growing older, I noticed how this gradually changed into people thinking I'm feeling dangerously safe, authoritarian. And that's odd. I think people think that of me because I keep things which are in my control straight and tight. But I only do that so things don't upset me. I don't want to meddle with things which are in the domain of others. I'm the typical get off my lawn type.
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Post by Murotsu » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:27 pm

You have it wrong, Darkbutflashy. I'm not sensitive. If anything, I'm insensitive. I rarely feel true emotion, of whatever sort you want to mention. I didn't get picked in school because I was all but invisible, not because I couldn't play whatever game sides were chosen for. I was on the outside of everything looking in without belonging to anything.
As the "get off my lawn" type, you should run. Run fast and don't look back. I'm an excellent shot and have military and civilian awards to prove it. Worse, I have no compassion or feelings against using such force. The only restraint is cold logic and rational thought. It's not that I'd choose to do it, but rather I'd be forced into it by someone. I've been confronted with such situations before. I was never scared, never felt fear. Even when in the Middle East in "combat" situations I didn't feel that way. Major fires on ships I was on, got the same reaction. It was always a measured, thought out, response.
The one thing I do feel is alone most of the time. That bothers me. Having a friend I absolutely know would be there, that was designed for me as a companion intrigues me. That is, someone I know will be there for me the way I've been all-too-many times for others who seemed never to appreciate that.

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Post by darkbutflashy » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:24 pm

Murotsu wrote:I'm not sensitive. If anything, I'm insensitive. I rarely feel true emotion,
Hmm, yes. That's a side effect of being overly sensitive for me. Emotion leads to emotion-overload, so I dismiss it all the time.
As the "get off my lawn" type, you should run. Run fast and don't look back.
I think you entirely missed the point. Anyone who's an excellent shot and have military and civilian awards to prove it wouldn't mess around on other people's lawns. Saw the movie? If not, do it. It's great.
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Post by Windblade » Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:04 am

As for me, I think it all started when I saw a videoclip for Bjork - All Is Full of Love. I can't remember the exact date, but I think it was either in the end of May 2002, or in the beginning of June 2002. So, I saw robots in this videoclip...and something "clicked" inside of me.

A few days later, I saw another interesting music video about androids (two manbots): Alpinestars & Brian Molko - Carbon Kid. After watching these videos I decided to add some android characters (both fembots and manbots) to my sci-fi stories. These stories were naive and silly, of course, but it was a good practice for my writing skills.

In September 2006 I saw one particular scene from Quake 4 - yes, I'm talking about stroggification scene (the protagonist is being transformed into a cyborg). This scene is VERY brutal, bloody and extreme. But I became interested in transformations (cyborgization and robotization) because of this scene.

In the middle of April 2007 one of my friends (she liked Quake 2 and Quake 4 too) wrote a small fanfic for me - a fanfic about one of my female OCs being stroggified. It's very difficult to describe my feelings and thoughts about this fanfiction... Well, I liked it A LOT. So I think this little gift from my friend "cemented" my interest in transformations. 1,5 years later I wrote a Quake 4 fanfiction inspired by aforementioned fanfic (and readers liked it). And some years later I decided to write a "proper" story about transformation (maybe I'll post it here).

P.S. Sorry for my bad English, it's not my native language :)

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