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Post by darkbutflashy » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:32 am

Miss Pris wrote:Yeah - the whole "I'm an academic so I know you better than you do even though you actually do this and I don't" thing is a problem. Adding defunct psychology to the mix creates a real nose-in-the-air approach to research that is not only pretty obnoxious, but it impedes knowledge.
You are too kind in this. The usual "public psychology" approach is "you are crooked *and* defiant not to accept the label I've given to you". Also applies to academics, sadly.
"If you already know the answer, why are you doing research?"
I'm glad I'm into engineering. That is where -though we know almost all about a certain thing- our stuff constantly fails in mysterious ways. So it comes naturally to engineers to read a lot of stuff and think they aren't good enough yet. And if you don't find the answer in the books, ***SCIENCE*** you have to find it out yourself.
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Post by darkbutflashy » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:12 am

Robotman wrote:crazy and desperately lonely men who want to marry [fill in weird stuff here] and pretend they're real women
I remember 1996, when German "women television" channel TM3 did this with the anime crowd. They went to some small conventions in Berlin with a film team, interviewed people, then cut it together like this: Image
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Post by Miss Pris » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:55 pm

Absolutely hysterical, Dark. I can totally picture the "pedophile-upskirt-tentacle-porn-rape-is-in-their-biology" narrative voiced-over images of 12 year old boys in Naruto headbands thumbing through DVD bargain bins and 18 year old cosplay girls with stuffed Domo purses and Para-para dance boots (or whatever the 1996 equivalent of that would have been.) Oh, the deviant evil!!!

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Post by Miss Pris » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:00 pm

--Battery-- wrote:your thesis will be brilliant no doubt.
Oh, Battery - can you be on my dissertation committee?! :wink:

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Post by darkbutflashy » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:45 pm

Miss Pris wrote:Absolutely hysterical, Dark. I can totally picture the "pedophile-upskirt-tentacle-porn-rape-is-in-their-biology" narrative voiced-over images of 12 year old boys in Naruto headbands thumbing through DVD bargain bins and 18 year old cosplay girls with stuffed Domo purses and Para-para dance boots (or whatever the 1996 equivalent of that would have been.) Oh, the deviant evil!!!
Mostly, but:
  • the "boys" had been 30 or so and got no cosplay but glasses and loud voices. Think of Steve Urkel, then you got it.
  • the cosplay girls had been 22 but looked as if they were 14 years old, so it was a real world lolilover's paradise.
  • the "boys" showed no interest in the cosplay girls. Instead, they referred how Ghost in the Shell was way better than Akira. Oh, well, because of the… the story, you know.
  • of course, the general theme was: look at those boys, not interested in the girls at all, only in their abnormal fetish!
Worrying how the "boys" would not be interested in lolita girls on a "women television" channel was kind of surreal.
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Post by --NightBattery-- » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:55 pm

I am having difficulties to see who are you sympathizing with, Flashy.
But I guess, that with an anime convention, and conservative news, there is no one to sympathize with.
except the pin ups and the artists in the booths..if any.

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Post by darkbutflashy » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:55 am

--Battery-- wrote:I am having difficulties to see who are you sympathizing with, Flashy.
I'm part of the manga crowd. Not watching anime, it makes me overload within 20 minutes or so. The Major made me indulge in my own robotic fantasies a great deal… especially because she was "bare" on the cover of the first book, in her cybernetic beauty, in the middle of the comic book shelf of a regular book store. BOLD. Made me feel quite good about my kink.
But I guess, that with an anime convention, and conservative news, there is no one to sympathize with.
Ah no, TM3 was meant to be *progressive*. That made it so disturbing.
except the pin ups and the artists in the booths..if any.
Back then, there weren't any manga-style artists in Germany, it was consumer shows mostly. All the hardcore fanboys went to Comiket to get new stuff.
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Post by Murotsu » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:01 pm

Quite frankly, I found it comforting being a severe introvert. Have you watched The Big Bang Theory? There was a minor character named Lucy on several episodes. I'm really a lot like that. Making friends is incredibly difficult. I always seem alone in a crowd. I don't get picked last, I don't get picked at all.
To have a friend that was designed for me was an intriguing idea.

Anyway, that's where it comes from for me.

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Post by darkbutflashy » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:43 am

Murotsu, I sympathize with you. It's pretty much the same for me but I have understood looooooooong ago (when I was five years old or so) it's because I'm terribly sensitive. And that's intrinsic, it doesn't depend on someone outside who "pick" or "not pick" you. You aren't getting "picked" because you appear to feel dangerously unsafe - giving up or breaking into tears for no appearant reason.

Growing older, I noticed how this gradually changed into people thinking I'm feeling dangerously safe, authoritarian. And that's odd. I think people think that of me because I keep things which are in my control straight and tight. But I only do that so things don't upset me. I don't want to meddle with things which are in the domain of others. I'm the typical get off my lawn type.
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Post by Murotsu » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:27 pm

You have it wrong, Darkbutflashy. I'm not sensitive. If anything, I'm insensitive. I rarely feel true emotion, of whatever sort you want to mention. I didn't get picked in school because I was all but invisible, not because I couldn't play whatever game sides were chosen for. I was on the outside of everything looking in without belonging to anything.
As the "get off my lawn" type, you should run. Run fast and don't look back. I'm an excellent shot and have military and civilian awards to prove it. Worse, I have no compassion or feelings against using such force. The only restraint is cold logic and rational thought. It's not that I'd choose to do it, but rather I'd be forced into it by someone. I've been confronted with such situations before. I was never scared, never felt fear. Even when in the Middle East in "combat" situations I didn't feel that way. Major fires on ships I was on, got the same reaction. It was always a measured, thought out, response.
The one thing I do feel is alone most of the time. That bothers me. Having a friend I absolutely know would be there, that was designed for me as a companion intrigues me. That is, someone I know will be there for me the way I've been all-too-many times for others who seemed never to appreciate that.

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Post by darkbutflashy » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:24 pm

Murotsu wrote:I'm not sensitive. If anything, I'm insensitive. I rarely feel true emotion,
Hmm, yes. That's a side effect of being overly sensitive for me. Emotion leads to emotion-overload, so I dismiss it all the time.
As the "get off my lawn" type, you should run. Run fast and don't look back.
I think you entirely missed the point. Anyone who's an excellent shot and have military and civilian awards to prove it wouldn't mess around on other people's lawns. Saw the movie? If not, do it. It's great.
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Post by Windblade » Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:04 am

As for me, I think it all started when I saw a videoclip for Bjork - All Is Full of Love. I can't remember the exact date, but I think it was either in the end of May 2002, or in the beginning of June 2002. So, I saw robots in this videoclip...and something "clicked" inside of me.

A few days later, I saw another interesting music video about androids (two manbots): Alpinestars & Brian Molko - Carbon Kid. After watching these videos I decided to add some android characters (both fembots and manbots) to my sci-fi stories. These stories were naive and silly, of course, but it was a good practice for my writing skills.

In September 2006 I saw one particular scene from Quake 4 - yes, I'm talking about stroggification scene (the protagonist is being transformed into a cyborg). This scene is VERY brutal, bloody and extreme. But I became interested in transformations (cyborgization and robotization) because of this scene.

In the middle of April 2007 one of my friends (she liked Quake 2 and Quake 4 too) wrote a small fanfic for me - a fanfic about one of my female OCs being stroggified. It's very difficult to describe my feelings and thoughts about this fanfiction... Well, I liked it A LOT. So I think this little gift from my friend "cemented" my interest in transformations. 1,5 years later I wrote a Quake 4 fanfiction inspired by aforementioned fanfic (and readers liked it). And some years later I decided to write a "proper" story about transformation (maybe I'll post it here).

P.S. Sorry for my bad English, it's not my native language :)

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